Nazi's Overthrown

What would have happened if the Nazi party got overthrown around May 1939, and how could this have happened?

Not sure if this was even possible, but seems like a cool idea to me, maybe there would be non-Nazi Germany in an alternate WWII fighting with the allies against the Russians or something. Oh, and they still have Austria and Czechoslovakia, what do you think will happen to them? I doubt the Germans would give them independence, even if they aren't Nazi's.
 

katchen

Banned
Wasn't there a plot to kill Hitler in 1938 that almost succeeded?
If a non-Nazi regime took power in Germany, despite Churchill's fulminations (and Churchill would fulminate about it), Germany would be permitted to keep what it had. Hadn't Neville Chamberlain and Dalardier just said they could have it?
Dewey would beat Roosevelt in 1940. Or Roosevelt wouldn't run and the Dems. would nominate someone else who might beat Dewey.
The big question would then be, what would the USSR finally do?:confused:
And that wouldn't stop the Nazis from coming back a couple years later, probably under Heydrich. National Socialism would be neither spent nor discredited as an ideology. :eek:
 
Well, by '39 Germans were pretty "nazified", especially after the Nurenberg laws in '35 and additional discriminatory laws from '37. Hitler managed to restore pride in Germans and in their military, in a way that would be impossible for a democratic candidate. About 130 000 chronically ill, mentally and physical handicapped as well as alcoholics had been killed by this time. Also, becoming democratic after having lived in a totalitarian regime is extremely difficult. Besides, the Nazis were fairly popular in both Germany and the rest of Europe by this time. Hell, Hitler almost won the Nobel Peace Prize for Gods' sake!

If the Nazis had been overthrown, there would probably be a right-wing (as opposed to extreme right) military dictatorship. Stalin was thinking of invading Germany, which might or might not have happened if the Nazis lost power. Germany's military was also fairly strong, so I guess the French would still be nervous. There is a fair chance that there would be a war nonetheless, but there would definitely have been no Shoah, and not a war against "the world". I believe there would have been the militarism and imperialism of Nazi Germany, with far less "ideology" and a more "reasonable" form of expansionism.
 

Dirk_Pitt

Banned
Yes, yes he was. Not in 1939 perhaps, only 2 years after the purge, but maybe in the mid forties, or even in the 1950s, when his military recovered some, but he would. Communism was an internationalist ideology. He would want to "export the Revolution" eventually.
 
Yes, yes he was. Not in 1939 perhaps, only 2 years after the purge, but maybe in the mid forties, or even in the 1950s, when his military recovered some, but he would. Communism was an internationalist ideology. He would want to "export the Revolution" eventually.

That's merely conjecture on your part. There is no evidence whatsoever that Stalin, without a dramatic shift in Europe ala Nazi Germany, had any interest in expanding into Europe and provoking a coalition effort against the Soviet Union which had been its greatest fear since its founding. Soviet communism stopped being internationalist by the late 1920s, and until the M-R pact remained focused inwards save for low risk commitments such as supporting Chiang, the Republicans, and the border conflict with Japan. It's far more likely that he escalates the border conflict with Japan over Manchuria, which is a safer and more isolated target than Europe.
 
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