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The war will likely last into late winter early spring 46.
German cities start eating Nukes and Germany is worse off post war ITTL.
German cities start eating Nukes and Germany is worse off post war ITTL.
The Horten Ho 229 was probably one of the best wunderwaffes, they were too fast for British radars
USA strategic bombing campaign crippled the Nazi economy by air while Russians destroyed the Wehrmacht in the east
The war will likely last into late winter early spring 46.
German cities start eating Nukes and Germany is worse off post war ITTL.
True. If Germany is too successful in their Wunderwaffe (be it V-1s, whatever), then they'll be contending with Allied Wunderwaffe in the form of atomic weaponr.
Each V-2 required about 30 tonnes of food to be converted to fuel on launch, and the project cost more than the Manhattan Project, AND killed more people working on it than actual targets (not that that last one was a problem for the Nazis.)
If you had a giant pit dug, dumped in one BILLION Reichsmarks, and one hundred million pounds of food, then drenched it in 50 million pounds of food converted into fuel and then lit the whole damn thing on fire you would still not have used up as much resources as the ACTUAL project did. And this isn't even getting into the scientists involved who would have been more productive doing almost literally ANYTHING else, and not killed 12,000 of your own people.
All of this from a vastly smaller resource pool than the Allies had. To think that these resources couldn't be used more productively is insensible to the point of nonsense.
And yet you present NO USEABLE DATA other than 30 tons potatoes = 5tons liquid rocket fuel ;
Not going to change much unless you want to build an equally useless rocket. Ergo you have no point!
Would 2.5 BILLION RM produce a Nazi nuke ?.....NO- Why because they are missing critical components like enriched uranium or heavy water and the years of research....
money means nothing to the Nazi economy
Its not liquid rocket fuel. It was alchohol fuel that happened to be used in a rocket. You know what else that can be used for? Amongst other things, JET fuel. Or fuel for land vehicles if produced and used correctly. But of course I'm sure you'll insist the Nazis never suffered from fuel shortages.
The reason it wouldn't produce a Nazi nuke is because the Nazi nuclear project was a joke more dangerous to the people working on it than the Allies. Much like the V-2 actually.
Really...
Just really...?
If you are going to post nonsense at least think through it a bit first.
Then kindly go and read about it. The only issue with using ethanol in jets is that you get less energy from it than some other fuels.I've seen reference to jet fuel from kerosene diesel & avgas....hell the Argus pulse jet used gasoline, but never heard of alcohol?
Really...
Just really...?
"This new learning amazes me Sir Belvedere "
Really...
Just really...?
"This new learning amazes me Sir Belvedere "
Prove that Nazi used alcohol as jet fuel. Theyed be better off producing WODKA and dropping it on the Russians.
I've seen reference to jet fuel from kerosene diesel & avgas....hell the Argus pulse jet used gasoline, but never heard of alcohol?
And further:
So yes Germany used potatoes to create fuel alcohol for V-2 rockets, but it only diverted about .35% of the 1944 total potato harvest.In fact, V2 rockets used several fuels, including about 900 gallons of ethanol each. The 3,000 rockets in the V2 program would have consumed about 2.7 million gallons overall, made from about 140,000 tons of potatoes. This was only a tiny fraction of the 40 million tons of potatoes harvested in Germany in 1944, which was a pretty bad year for potatoes, among many other things.
The V-2 was not a get engine last time I checked.The V-2 used alcohol as fuel per wiki:
And further:
So yes Germany used potatoes to create fuel alcohol for V-2 rockets, but it only diverted about .35% of the 1944 total potato harvest.
Took almost no time to check this detail. I suggest using Google before using snark when participating in further discussions.
Doesn't change the fact that ethanol can be used to fuel a jet engine. Its not super efficient to do so, but its still more efficient than literally anything related to the V-2 program.The V-2 was not a get engine last time I checked.
The V-2 used alcohol as fuel per wiki:
And further:
So yes Germany used potatoes to create fuel alcohol for V-2 rockets, but it only diverted about .35% of the 1944 total potato harvest.
Took almost no time to check this detail. I suggest using Google before using snark when participating in further discussions.
When I think of Wunderwaffe, I remember the Hispano Saetta, Helwan, HAL Marut, and the Pulqui II.
There was no proof given that it could be used for a jet engine.Doesn't change the fact that ethanol can be used to fuel a jet engine. Its not super efficient to do so, but its still more efficient than literally anything related to the V-2 program.
1950s jets using jet engines largely developed AFTER WW2. Of course they wouldn't use engines that were of the mid-1940s vintage.And the Allied technology and materials it took to build them. The Pulqui, HA-300 and Marut had British jet engines, like the MiG-15 did.
And the people trying to make them weren't being bombed round the clock, and weren't underfed slaves.
Assault rifles and the ammo for them. More AT guns. More AAA guns.I'M still waiting to hear about all these spectacular 'non sexy' weapons the Nazi could produce instead of the V-2 ????
You mean the Taifun missile. The US tried to develop it post war and ran into problems, being unable to get it to work:Instead of the V2, create a surface to air missile, up to 50,000 feet. It would be un-aimed of course, but against dense bomber formations, might work more effective than flak.
The US Army had initially studied the Taifun in 1946, and the German engineers now working for the Army were convinced the concept deserved more development.[1] When similar concerns about the development time of their own guided missile projects were raised, the Taifun was reconsidered and a development program started at Bendix in 1948. One major change was to replace the warhead area with a dart-like version, which was separated from the main rocket body at engine burnout to continue on without the drag of the airframe and thereby reach higher altitudes.
Like the Germans before them, Bendix had significant problems with the engine, and eventually decided to develop a solid-fuel engine based on a new elastomeric fuel from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), starting in March 1951. The first flight of a solid-fuel Loki occurred on 22 June 1951.[2] The new engine was successful, and the liquid engine was abandoned in February 1952.
An initial meeting on Jun 25 1954 at the Redstone Arsenal of Dr. Wernher von Braun, Frederick C. Durant III, Alexander Satin, David Young, Dr. Fred L. Whipple, Dr. S. Fred Singer, and Commander George W. Hoover resulted in an agreement that a Redstone rocket with a Loki cluster as the second stage could launch a satellite into a 200-mile orbit without major new developments.[3]
JPL eventually fired 3,544 Lokis at White Sands during the testing program. These tests demonstrated that the launch of one rocket would affect the flight path of the ones behind it, making the dispersion too large to be a useful weapon.[4] Although this problem was studied in depth, it appeared there was no obvious solution. The Army eventually gave up on Loki in September 1955, in favour of the Nike-Ajax missile, which had recently reached operational status, and the MIM-23 Hawk which was expected to be available shortly.[5]