Nazi Diadochi

Say Germany wins on the eastern front and gets an armistice with the western allies

Could Hitler’s successors divide up Germany and it’s new conquests as de facto Independent states
 
Say Germany wins on the eastern front and gets an armistice with the western allies

Could Hitler’s successors divide up Germany and it’s new conquests as de facto Independent states
I could see the SS peeling off to form their own state: either Burgundy or Crimea.
 
if Germany won against mother Russia do you all think the allies would still have won?

Materially, they had the power to do so. The UK alone, if she fought to death would had likely been capable of defeating Germany with the resources of the Empire, let alone with the US. Would they actually do so? No, the blood cost is way too high.

No eastern front means that now UK/US are going to have to pay the bill of 10 million+ dead and multi years long horrible war, their populations will never agree to that, so they will make peace.

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About new conquests, I think this colonazation of the USSR is going to be a total failure, a huge waste of money, lives and an awful quagmire. Honestly Hitler would had been best in getting limited more manageable territories with key resources, like the oil fields.
 
This is an interesting question I've not seen asked before

I wouldn't say it was impossible, since what we "know" of the Nazi Empire lasted only a few years and was inherently unstable in the long-run, but not necessarily facing the collapse and reversion to the status quo ante bellum

I might view it more as being satrapies than warring successor states - the governors (by whatever title) evolve their own autonomies, move from being servants of the Reich to federates of it

In time, this could lead to rivalries and conflict
 
Could they get both ?
They're pretty worthless, as neither contains much in the way of heavy industry. The only way they get them is if some of the other "Diadochi" let them keep them.

IMO, any sort of long-term split can realistically result in two main parts at most - one centered on the Ruhr Valley, the other on Silezia+Bohemia. Anywhere else doesn't have all that much capacity to produce the basic stuff needed by the war machine. Maaaybe some sort of Bavaria+Austria region that is backed by/ under the control of Italy, which gets by on account of the other two being too evenly matched.
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(lighter shade being puppet states)
 
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(lighter shade being puppet states)
That reminds me of a map made by @Witch0Winter some time ago, about a nazi German faction struggle that erupts after Hitler's death.
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Honestly, i feel like a scenario about the Nazi German empire splintering into multiple warring states after the "founding dictator" passes away is actually quite likely, because of the nature of autocratic dictatorial/imperial regimes. It happened in Rome, it happened in Byzantium, and it happened (and still happens) in the Congo. Control of Nazi Germany's empire would be too tempting to be passed by a high-ranking official with the capability to usurp power.
I'll have to agree with your division of power there, @Magnum . The "Rhenish Reich" is well poised to exert influence over France, the "Bavarian Reich" could keep the overlordship over Italy, while the "Prussian Reich" could command the loyalty of most of the eastern Reichskomissariats.
 
I could see the SS peeling off to form their own state: either Burgundy or Crimea.

Perhaps both, Reichsgau Burgund and Reichgau Götengau. SS States where the Aryan Ideal is practiced and lived, in the small Aryan communities designed by the Ahnenerbe, where SS-Frauen know their place, Kinder und Küche, raising Aryan Kinder who gather around Mutti's skirts and sing praise to the ancestral god Frauja.


And being subsidized out the wazoo from Berlin, but don't let's talk about that.
 
This is an interesting question I've not seen asked before

I wouldn't say it was impossible, since what we "know" of the Nazi Empire lasted only a few years and was inherently unstable in the long-run, but not necessarily facing the collapse and reversion to the status quo ante bellum

I might view it more as being satrapies than warring successor states - the governors (by whatever title) evolve their own autonomies, move from being servants of the Reich to federates of it

In time, this could lead to rivalries and conflict

*This. One of the key factors here is that Germany proper more or less needs to remain a united force if they want to keep supremacy/hegemony in the Axis Alliance that keeps the system stable enough to allow the outlying regions to focus inward rather than buckle under the combined pressure of outside threats and internal dissent. If The Reich itself gets too weak, expect Italy and Vichy to start stretching their influence and the minor states (Like Romania and Hungary) to start spating with one another. Most likely, you see the Reichkommisariats developing autonomy first; as long as they send their tithes to Berlin more or less getting to do what they want on their military marches
 
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