Nazi Cold War

And you underestimate America's belief in social justice, especially at the time. We thought Mao was just an agricultural reformer, after all.

Likewise, since nobody saw the Germans as Marxist...

Really, in the '50s?

The Germans might not be seen as Marxists, but they won't be seen as Conservative. Preachers could just as easily rant about "Godless Nazism" as Godless Communism, and it would be opposed to American society in the same way, with its hatred of free enterprise and traditional morals and its emphasis on the collective over individual freedom.

I guess my point kind of is that Socialism really is incompatible with the American mindset. They won't support it and swing to the left just because there are Nazis out there.
 
Really, in the '50s?

1940s. Then Mao decided he would praise Stalin to the skies.

The Germans might not be seen as Marxists, but they won't be seen as Conservative.

I mean. They were. So what changes?

Why wouldn't people view Church, Children, and Kitchen as conservative?

I guess my point kind of is that Socialism really is incompatible with the American mindset. They won't support it and swing to the left just because there are Nazis out there.

Some ways yes, some ways no.
 
1940s. Then Mao decided he would praise Stalin to the skies.

Sounds like it was mostly for lack of knowledge, then. There were a lot of idealists around in the '40s.

I mean. They were. So what changes?

Why wouldn't people view Church, Children, and Kitchen as conservative?

Because it turned into polygamy and persecution of the Church? A victorious, radicalised Nazi Germany would feel like firing off all those radical reforms Himmler, Hitler and Bormann had been dreaming of in between - giving veterans two wives, starting SS collectives, fighting off "Judaic" Christianity, that kind of thing.

Some ways yes, some ways no.

No, it goes completely against the individualist American spirit. I don't see that changing, even if you put radical progressives and New Dealers in charge for some years to come.
 
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