Nazi China?

Hashasheen

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we all know about the alliance between Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany, we know that Germany switched from china to Japan, when the nazis came to power. what if the Nazi's maintained their support for china, seeing it as a far better ally against the USSR? considering timeline making of this. (just woke up with the idea, grammer sucks sorry)
 
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we all know about the alliance between Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany, we know that Germany switched from china to Japan, when the nazis came to power. what if the Nazi's maintained their support for china, seeing it as a far better ally against the USSR? considering usage of timeline making of this.
The Germans were actually on relatively good terms with the Chinese right up until the Japanese declared war and requested the Germans to end their presence in China; up until then the Germans were buying raw materials needed for military build-up such as tungsten from the Chinese, training and advising the Chinese military as well as helping modernise it by selling the Chinese modern German military hardware. Looking back on it, it was a colossally bad decision to side with the Japanese who broke their promises to continue supplying Germany with tungsten and other materials when they got control of it, instead keeping it for themselves and brought the US in to the war, and didn't help against the USSR. Doesn't make Italy look so bad.
 

yourworstnightmare

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The Chinese was in no shape to do anything to the USSR. There were the nationalist government, the communist rebels, and several autonomous warlords. And there were the Japanese that would have invaded even if Germany had maintained their support. The only thing different would be no alliance between Japan and Germany, which probably would result in a later US entry in WWII, since they would not be at war with germany after Pearl Harbour, just with Japan.
 

Krall

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The only thing different would be no alliance between Japan and Germany, which probably would result in a later US entry in WWII, since they would not be at war with germany after Pearl Harbour, just with Japan.

I never understood why Germany felt it needed to honour its alliance with Japan, I mean, they're not aryan, and there's no benefit to declaring war on the US.
 
I never understood why Germany felt it needed to honour its alliance with Japan, I mean, they're not aryan, and there's no benefit to declaring war on the US.
I think Hitler felt that Japan could help with the war effort against the USSR, possibly by opening up a new front for the Soviets, if he helped them against the US. Quite possibly some of the German leadership felt that the US was going to find a way to get in to a war with Germany come what may, so Japan was an important ally in that sense.
 
this work only if Third Reich not make alliance with Japan

under point of view that China Kuomintang party fight the chines communists
how is supported by USSR
is more "logic" to support the Kuomintang party and give them modern weapons
and to attack "source of all evil" the USSR

would be a twisted World
Third Reich and Republic of China attack USSR in 1941

and Molotov in Tokyo demands to see Japan Emperor
with Stalin please to attack Republic of China
 
I think Hitler felt that Japan could help with the war effort against the USSR, possibly by opening up a new front for the Soviets, if he helped them against the US. Quite possibly some of the German leadership felt that the US was going to find a way to get in to a war with Germany come what may, so Japan was an important ally in that sense.

As I recall Hitler was hoping that the Japanese would declare war against the Soviets in exchange for his declaration against the US. There was also a general sense that with Lend-Lease and other such aid already being sent to the Allies US entry into the war was inevitable, so there was nothing to lose by going to war.
 
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