Napoleon in America

after reading several timelines in the forum I have decided to create and post my first timeline please review and any suggestions are welcome.

POD: Napoleon makes a different choice when his senior officer's mutiny after fall of Paris

4 April 1814 France

Napoleon was furious his senior officers had the nerve to tell him, their Commander in Chief, that it was essential to make peace, or they would detain him and make peace with his opponents in the coalition themselves on top of the Sénat conservateur passing Acte de déchéance de l'Empereur ("Emperor's Demise Act"). He had two options; try to keep on trying to defeat the coalition and risk his officers removing him from power, or make peace and see what terms the coalition shall give. Which would probably be humiliating since his own terms on his enemies were usually humiliating harsh and his opponents would enjoy doing it to him.He began to think of a third option that had been suggested by his supporters flee to America specifically the united states where he could rest and plan his return to power in France unfortunately the drawback was that in the united states he would be an ordinary person and would take a long time to build enough support to attempt a return to France if the united states did not detain him to avoid British anger and the united states had already shown itself to go back on its word by using the excuse that the treaties were with the king of France and not with the republic or empire of France and even dare to attack French vessels, then he remembered from his brother Joseph reports that the Spanish colonies in America were in rebellion and there was a opportunity for someone of his prestige and abilities to rise to be the leader of the rebellion and create a new empire, since as much as he hated to admit even if he manage to regain his empire in the future his supporters had shown to be fickle and would undoubtedly attempt to remove him when the winds changed politically so better get a fresh start in America Spanish colonies and use his reputation and abilities to create a new empire that he could govern and use his experience to avoid the mistake that has him in his current position all he needed for the moment to get his plans started was a ship that could avoid the blockade of British navy and get him and some supporters and millions in gold francs to news Spain since it was near the united states and if his attempt failed to create a new empire he could always retire to united states where he could use the fortune he was planning to run away with to support his attempt to build a new empire.so Napoleon began to plan using only longtime loyalist to find a ship and crew and pick the supporters who would be useful and trustworthy and pick whee in Americans to start his new empire.

ps: apologies for errors in grammar and punctuation I am not good spotting them and English is my second language if anyone would like to be beta for this timeline pm me.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acte_de_déchéance_de_l'Empereur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Sixth_Coalition#Abdication_and_peace
 
President? I know Morelos saught for a new government, but was it really a shift to a republic? Best I knew, getting rid of the monarchy was only really a thing after independence.
 
Great first timeline! It's especially impressive that you can write this in your second language! The concept is unique (maybe a bit implausible but we've all been guilty of that) and I'm definitely going to follow this! Out of curiosity, is this your first timeline or have you created other ones before you joined AlternateHistory.Com?
 
President? I know Morelos saught for a new government, but was it really a shift to a republic? Best I knew, getting rid of the monarchy was only really a thing after independence.

Put a crown on Nappy's head and Mexico is basically ringing the dinner bell to Europe saying "Crack down on and re-colonize me please!". Hell, I think the biggest issue is that Nappy doing something that extreme without at least taset support by one of the current Big Four is going to draw the full ire of Great Britain at least down on whatever country decided to put him in charge.

That's the first hurdle you're going to have to leap.
 
President? I know Morelos saught for a new government, but was it really a shift to a republic? Best I knew, getting rid of the monarchy was only really a thing after independence.
would napoleon realistically have the prestige/influence to be made the new leader of Mexico when he arrives from France?
 
Put a crown on Nappy's head and Mexico is basically ringing the dinner bell to Europe saying "Crack down on and re-colonize me please!". Hell, I think the biggest issue is that Nappy doing something that extreme without at least taset support by one of the current Big Four is going to draw the full ire of Great Britain at least down on whatever country decided to put him in charge.

That's the first hurdle you're going to have to leap.

Perhaps if done right away, but in OTL the war dragged on to 1821. Who knows what could happen in TTL once/if independence is achieved, if it also takes that long and depending on what Napoleon did.

would napoleon realistically have the prestige/influence to be made the new leader of Mexico when he arrives from France?

I doubt it. The Mexican War for Independence started precisely because Napoleon beat Spain and put his brother on the throne, leading to the political crisis that sparked the war. Though by 1814 it's hard to say how he could be received... but definitely he wouldn't be made leader. Perhaps allowed to fight for the insurgents if he wishes with someone above him, but not entirely sure on what else.
 
Perhaps if done right away, but in OTL the war dragged on to 1821. Who knows what could happen in TTL once/if independence is achieved, if it also takes that long and depending on what Napoleon did.

Eh... I'm really skeptical that Europe is going to be particularly keen about allowing Napoleon to disrupt their system for a second time (Though, this time, it would be in terms of American colonialism rather than the Continental balance). Any faction who wants to use him would have to weigh the military benefits he may still provide with the political baggage he's carrying. That is, unless Bourbon Spain can be sufficiently alienated from Britain (Who, ultimately, is the one who matters when it comes to naval affairs)... perhaps due to aligning with Russia for one reason or another.
 
Eh... I'm really skeptical that Europe is going to be particularly keen about allowing Napoleon to disrupt their system for a second time (Though, this time, it would be in terms of American colonialism rather than the Continental balance). Any faction who wants to use him would have to weigh the military benefits he may still provide with the political baggage he's carrying. That is, unless Bourbon Spain can be sufficiently alienated from Britain (Who, ultimately, is the one who matters when it comes to naval affairs)... perhaps due to aligning with Russia for one reason or another.

Well, it's not like Britain minded much the Spanish colonies breaking away in OTL, did they? And it's not like Napoleon is in the same position as he had in France. Perhaps if he takes a leadership role and actually manages to turn into a possible threat again to the rest of Europe... but then, that still needs some time to see if it actually happens.
 
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