Napoleon dismantles Prussia at Tilsit

What if Napoleon had dismantled Prussia at Tilsit?

I'm thinking Brandenburg and Pomerania become statelets as part of the Confederation of the Rhine, Silesia goes to Austria, West Prussia goes to Warsaw, and East Prussia is given to Russia.
 
What if Napoleon had dismantled Prussia at Tilsit?

I'm thinking Brandenburg and Pomerania become statelets as part of the Confederation of the Rhine, Silesia goes to Austria, West Prussia goes to Warsaw, and East Prussia is given to Russia.
A lot of angry Prussians. And Brits. Maybe Austrians, not so much Russians, and the Poles would love him.
 
I've heard that Napoleon admired old Fritz, if that was the case would he really destroy everything one of his idols built?
 
Actually, AFAIK, Napoleon detested Prussians and had rather low opinion about Prussian king Frederick William III (he had more respect for his wife, queen Louise). The main reason Prussia was not dismantled was tsar Alexander who tried to protect his allies. So I'm not sure if Alexander would agree to take East Prussia: he needed still relatively strong Prussia as a potential ally in another round against Napoleon. And why should Napoleon reward Austria with large territories? He just defeated them? If he gave Silesia to Poland or offer an exchange of Galicia for Poland in return for Silesia for Austria it would be more logical.
Such a thing might be theoretically possible if Alexander had died before Tilsit and his successor would be his brother, Grand Duke Konstantin Pavlovich who allegednly was not as cunning.
 

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Actually, AFAIK, Napoleon detested Prussians and had rather low opinion about Prussian king Frederick William III (he had more respect for his wife, queen Louise). The main reason Prussia was not dismantled was tsar Alexander who tried to protect his allies. So I'm not sure if Alexander would agree to take East Prussia: he needed still relatively strong Prussia as a potential ally in another round against Napoleon. And why should Napoleon reward Austria with large territories? He just defeated them? If he gave Silesia to Poland or offer an exchange of Galicia for Poland in return for Silesia for Austria it would be more logical.
Well, dismantling Prussia and reestablishing Poland would give Napoleon a chance to kick Alexander's butt without marching to Moscow, while Poland would be more reliable ally than Prussia IOTL.
 
Well, dismantling Prussia and reestablishing Poland would give Napoleon a chance to kick Alexander's butt without marching to Moscow, while Poland would be more reliable ally than Prussia IOTL.

Indeed. However in Tilsit Napoleon's position was not so strong as it is generally believed. True, he defeated pretty much all European powers except Britain, and Britain was unable to interfere directly on the continent. However, the French Army was exhausted and soldiers had simply enough fighting. Napoleon knew that and he also knew he would not be able to defeat Russians on their own ground. Alexander also knew that so he was able to at least partially protect Prussia.
 
Actually, AFAIK, Napoleon detested Prussians and had rather low opinion about Prussian king Frederick William III (he had more respect for his wife, queen Louise). The main reason Prussia was not dismantled was tsar Alexander who tried to protect his allies. So I'm not sure if Alexander would agree to take East Prussia: he needed still relatively strong Prussia as a potential ally in another round against Napoleon. And why should Napoleon reward Austria with large territories? He just defeated them? If he gave Silesia to Poland or offer an exchange of Galicia for Poland in return for Silesia for Austria it would be more logical.
Such a thing might be theoretically possible if Alexander had died before Tilsit and his successor would be his brother, Grand Duke Konstantin Pavlovich who allegednly was not as cunning.
How about giving Silesia to Saxony, as a bridge connecting the two kingdoms of Frederick Augustus?
 
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