Napoleon commits suicide

Allegedly Napoleon contemplated suicide after his abdication in order to avoid capture by his enemies. This means no Hundred Days and possibly a different Treaty of Vienna. What are some other butterflies you can think of?
 
It'll be widely believed that Napoleon was actually killed by the Coalition. There'll probably be some sort of pro-Napoleon backlash following.
 
Napoleon isn't going to commit suicide, the man was too proud to die in such a "cowardly" way.

Actually, he tried. After he was almost captured in the 1812 campaign he took to carrying a vial of poison around with him in case it happened again, and he took it around the time of his first abdication. However the potency of the drug had weakened with age and he just got extremely sick for a while.

If the drug is stronger (or Napoleon's constitution weaker) and he dies, then you see no 100 days and probably get a Bonapartist legend that he was killed by the allies (heck, we got one of those OTL after his death on St Helena), but probably not much else.
 
Actually, he tried. After he was almost captured in the 1812 campaign he took to carrying a vial of poison around with him in case it happened again, and he took it around the time of his first abdication. However the potency of the drug had weakened with age and he just got extremely sick for a while.

If the drug is stronger (or Napoleon's constitution weaker) and he dies, then you see no 100 days and probably get a Bonapartist legend that he was killed by the allies (heck, we got one of those OTL after his death on St Helena), but probably not much else.

I would never have believe this in the slightest if it was only a rumour, but it does seem to be supported.
I always thought that suicidal tendencies were not found in natural born leaders.

But anyway if Napoleon killed himself in 1812, this leaves his one year old son as heir, would a new revolution see Napoleon II on the throne with Dictatorial Regents?
 
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If Napoleon committed suicide in 1814, then we'd see several large consequences across Europe. First off, France would be in a much better position. They would have the 1792 borders, rather than the 1790 ones. They would also keep the magnificent art collections and pieces Napoleon looted from all over Europe. Finally they would avoid an occupation and the humiliations that went with it.

As for the rest of Europe, its a bit harder to say. However, without the specter of Napoleon and the Hundred days, there's a chance Napoleon's son the King of Rome would remain Hereditary Prince of Parma, thus establishing a Bonaparte Ruling house on the continent. Or, in a scenario that to me makes much more sense, the Empress is instead given Lucca as a hereditary realm, with Parma returning to the Bourbon. Also, there's a slight chance that Murat manages to hold onto Naples, as the allies didn't decide to kick him out until he sided with Napoleon. Although in my opinion Murat was on borrowed time.
 
I would never have believe this in the slightest if it was only a rumour, but it does seem to be supported.
I always thought that suicidal tendencies were not found in natural born leaders.

Suicidal tendencies and depression are actually more common in natural-born leaders and the intelligentsia than among the average laypeople.
 
Suicidal tendencies and depression are actually more common in natural-born leaders and the intelligentsia than among the average laypeople.

Fair enough

So now that Emperor Napoleon I is dead.

Empress Marie Louise, would return to Austria and be given a royal title and land for her and her son there.
Prince Napoléon François Charles Joseph Bonaparte, is three and is brough up as an Austrian, would he drop his first two names and be known as Archduke Charles Joseph?
What about having him as Archduke of Hungary?
 
Allegedly Napoleon contemplated suicide after his abdication in order to avoid capture by his enemies. This means no Hundred Days and possibly a different Treaty of Vienna. What are some other butterflies you can think of?

Napoleon isn't going to commit suicide, the man was too proud to die in such a "cowardly" way.

Actually, he tried. But the poison he carried around had lost its potency and he survived it.
 
Fair enough

Prince Napoléon François Charles Joseph Bonaparte, is three and is brough up as an Austrian, would he drop his first two names and be known as Archduke Charles Joseph?
What about having him as Archduke of Hungary?

Napoleon II didn't live long enough IOTL to make much of a name for himself, I doubt that would be different ITTL.
 
Napoleon isn't going to commit suicide, the man was too proud to die in such a "cowardly" way.

Will he could have see it like how the Romans,Japanese and nazis and many cultures saw it . It's better to die by your sword then the enemies
 
I always remember this map whenever this idea of Napoleon dying before the 100 Days comes up again. The great powers would need to solve this mess:

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Napoleon II didn't live long enough IOTL to make much of a name for himself, I doubt that would be different ITTL.

As I understand it he died from catching pneumonia. It wouldn't be a terribly large butterfly for him to not catch it and live a far longer life.
 
Fair enough

So now that Emperor Napoleon I is dead.

Empress Marie Louise, would return to Austria and be given a royal title and land for her and her son there.
Prince Napoléon François Charles Joseph Bonaparte, is three and is brough up as an Austrian, would he drop his first two names and be known as Archduke Charles Joseph?
What about having him as Archduke of Hungary?

The Duke of Reichstadt was known as Franz during his time in Vienna, as that was the only one of his names he didn't inherit from his father's family (it was from his maternal grandfather). He was brought up as a good little Hapsburg and was showing some interest in a military career (he'd just been appointed to command of an Austrian battalion when he died). It's possible that if he survives, stays a loyal Hapsburg and shows no interest in the antics of the Bonapartists in France, that he is allowed to inherit the Duchy of Parma when his mother dies in 1847 (it was originally given to her for life only) - a similar trajectory to Napoleon's adopted son Eugene in fact, who settled down to a life as minor Bavarian nobility and produced a rather successful dynasty. The really interesting question would be if Reichstadt is allowed to marry, and if so who.
 
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