Napoleon Bonaparte born in USA
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Right. Sorry about that.
In this case, Napoleon is born in British North America.
His parents could support the British, and end up leaving for Canada. They may be against the British, or may have very little to do with the war (most likely) and become US citizens.
Without Napoleon, the French Revolutionary Wars will be very different.
Everything after that is a mystery to me. There will be no War of 1812. Britain and the US may fight, but not for the reasons of OTL.
Napoleon's upbringing will be dramatically alterred, and so will his adult self. Napoleon could become a famous General, or Admiral. He could be a renowned painter, sculptor or philosopher.
While this is boring, in all likelihood, Napoleon Bonaparte will be totally unknown. Remove a 'great man' from all of the circumstances and experiences that made him such, and you will probably be left without a 'great man'.
I know this is boring, but it is (IMHO) the most likely answer to your question.
Napoleon Bonaparte, explorer of the continent's vast northwest for the Hudson's Bay Company.
Like this:
After the French conquest of Corsica, Carlo Buonaparte and Letitia are exiled and leave for America (let's say Vermont). Napoleon is born there (1769) and inherits from his father his liberal ideas, but also anti-french sentiment. Carlo fights in the Revolutionary War as a militia officer (has previous experience) but his enthusiasm begans to fade as he discovers that his new country has France as an ally. After the war, he becomes a Federalist and a staunch supporter of Hamilton, dying in Ajaccio (1795), the town he built in 1781 (OTL Montpelier).
Napoleon becomes one of Hamilton's war hawks and during John Adams' presidency (1797-1801) leads a Continental Army upon New Orleans in the Louisiana War of 1798-1799 (the reason of the war being the Terror Regime, that did not end in 1794). His victories lead to the annexation of the french territory. Jefferson's presidency (1801-1809) and Hamilton's death make Napoleon the head of the Federalists, angry because of Jefferson's new found love for the Directorate (that ended the Terror Regime in 1799). Napoleon becomes president of USA after the elections of 1808 and his presidency (1809-1821) is from then on considered an iconic period in american history: the beginning of industralization, urban growth, a powerful federal government, Buonaparte Doctrine. Because of him, the federalists grow to become the most important american party, while the democrats entrench themselves in the South and the republicans (a north reaction to the perceived excessive government powers) form enclaves in New England and some parts of the Frontier.
Napoleon dies in 1821, mere weeks after leaving office.
After the French conquest of Corsica, Carlo Buonaparte and Letitia are exiled and leave for America (let's say Vermont). Napoleon is born there (1769) and inherits from his father his liberal ideas, but also anti-french sentiment. Carlo fights in the Revolutionary War as a militia officer (has previous experience) but his enthusiasm begans to fade as he discovers that his new country has France as an ally. After the war, he becomes a Federalist and a staunch supporter of Hamilton, dying in Ajaccio (1795), the town he built in 1781 (OTL Montpelier).
Napoleon becomes one of Hamilton's war hawks and during John Adams' presidency (1797-1801) leads a Continental Army upon New Orleans in the Louisiana War of 1798-1799 (the reason of the war being the Terror Regime, that did not end in 1794). His victories lead to the annexation of the french territory. Jefferson's presidency (1801-1809) and Hamilton's death make Napoleon the head of the Federalists, angry because of Jefferson's new found love for the Directorate (that ended the Terror Regime in 1799). Napoleon becomes president of USA after the elections of 1808 and his presidency (1809-1821) is from then on considered an iconic period in american history: the beginning of industralization, urban growth, a powerful federal government, Buonaparte Doctrine. Because of him, the federalists grow to become the most important american party, while the democrats entrench themselves in the South and the republicans (a north reaction to the perceived excessive government powers) form enclaves in New England and some parts of the Frontier.
Napoleon dies in 1821, mere weeks after leaving office.
About The ONLY Way this Could be Made Better, And to Further TTL's Napolean's Resultant Pre-FDR Mystique ...
Would be If he Successfully Wins The Election of 1820, Without Much Competition ...
And then Leaves The Presidency to his Vice President, None Other than OTL's Last Federalist Challenger, Rufus King!
ive always wondered about the nationalities of people here... I wouldnt be surprised if some peruvians have lurked here before.
But i do see the point: how much a difference to history are pure genetics and how much is your environment? I would say that a chaotic mix of the two is the most likely. I think it at least plausible that had he migrated as a baby he could end up similar to Jackson, perhaps mistreated by the british as a boy and moving out west (lousianna or saint louis maybe?) and rising to prominence of some sort...
Napoleon Bonaparte was born in Williamsburg in 1759. He later becomes a baker of little importance and dies in 1845. It is notable that his great, great grandson invented that thing where you put ice cream on a Popsicle stick.
And his legend lives on!
And his legend lives on!
Considering that Napoleon wanted to join the RN (it will have been as an officer, not through the pressgangs) I can see him going thusly, and returning to the Old World. From there he would still likely excel, given his mathematical genius and flair for cannon commanding, but given his new peers and the less precise nature of naval warfare, he may unfortunately just become another name on the list of commendable RN officers. I can see him making an Admiralcy but without himself to lead France and prolong the Revolutionary Wars past their sell-by date, I'm not sure if he would have seen enough action to become the equal of Nelson, in reputation terms, except through fluke occurrence. Perhaps, though, he might have become a protege of Nelson, given their similar characteristics - short stature but greater egos, able command of tactics, willingness to do what is necessary to achieve results, womanising ways, etc.
Just a guess.
Just a guess.