Names for a Partitioned New York

While none of them have gone very far, there have been suggestions to divide New York into multiple states, usually NYC and Upstate. However, I've seen few serious proposals for what the name of the new state(s) would be. This can be for a NYC/Upstate divide, Western NY/NYC+Hudson River Valley, or any other partition.

It would make the most sense for NYC to keep the title of New York, but Mayor Fernando Wood proposed the name Tri-Insula when he suggested secession in 1861. Hamilton (after Alexander Hamilton, who made his career in the city) could also work. Upstate New York could use the name of one of its prominent cities - Albany and Buffallo - or it could use a geographic name like Hudson or Niagara (the later of which was has been used as a proposed name for a state consisting of western New York).

Putting this in post-1900 since that's when partition and secession became popular, but I'll accept pre-1900 PoDs.
 
I could see Niagra, maybe Adirondack or Saratoga as a seceded upstate. As for the city's secession, it's hard to tell since New York City iirc gave the colony/state it's name, but they can't exactly take it back and force the state they just ditched to hand it over.
 
The most popular name is "New Amsterdam" in current secession movements. The problem is that you probably need a name that doesn't favor any of the four upstate regions (i.e. Capital/Hudson Valley, Adirondacks, Central/Finger Lakes, and Western NY). You could just punt and call it Ontario since that intersects enough of the state, but that may cause some confusion
 
The most popular name is "New Amsterdam" in current secession movements. The problem is that you probably need a name that doesn't favor any of the four upstate regions (i.e. Capital/Hudson Valley, Adirondacks, Central/Finger Lakes, and Western NY). You could just punt and call it Ontario since that intersects enough of the state, but that may cause some confusion

Minor details. Using that logic, Texas should be split into Chihuahua in West Texas, Coahuila around San Antonio and Austin, Tamaulipas on the Gulf, and just call Dallas and Fort Worth Nuevo Leon because why not.
 
Upstate could be called 'Iroquois' but could also be called Hudson,which might fit better. Erie could be an interesting name,but might be odd for the rest. Saratoga,Adirondacks and Niagara are also options.

New York City would probably just be New York.

Also,would Long Island become it's own state? I can't see them really wanting to join Upstate,but then I also don't think they'd want to remain part of New York if Upstate got to succeed.
 
Upstate could be called 'Iroquois' but could also be called Hudson,which might fit better. Erie could be an interesting name,but might be odd for the rest. Saratoga,Adirondacks and Niagara are also options.

New York City would probably just be New York.

Also,would Long Island become it's own state? I can't see them really wanting to join Upstate,but then I also don't think they'd want to remain part of New York if Upstate got to succeed.

I could see a case where Long Island stays with NYC but Suffolk County splits into two parts: Suffolk (Babylon, Huntington, Smithtown, Islip and Brookhaven towns, county seat in Hauppauge) and Peconic (Riverhead, Southold, Shelter Island, Southampton, East Hampton towns, county seat in Riverhead)
 
Minor details. Using that logic, Texas should be split into Chihuahua in West Texas, Coahuila around San Antonio and Austin, Tamaulipas on the Gulf, and just call Dallas and Fort Worth Nuevo Leon because why not.

Creating an actual shared identity for the state among places that have not much in common other than being “upstate“ is not a minor detail. Without creating unity there will be further partitioning of the state and secession
 
I could see a case where Long Island stays with NYC but Suffolk County splits into two parts: Suffolk (Babylon, Huntington, Smithtown, Islip and Brookhaven towns, county seat in Hauppauge) and Peconic (Riverhead, Southold, Shelter Island, Southampton, East Hampton towns, county seat in Riverhead)

I think a State of Long Island would include Nassau County.
 
I could see a case where Long Island stays with NYC but Suffolk County splits into two parts: Suffolk (Babylon, Huntington, Smithtown, Islip and Brookhaven towns, county seat in Hauppauge) and Peconic (Riverhead, Southold, Shelter Island, Southampton, East Hampton towns, county seat in Riverhead)

As somebody from Islip, I think that area and the whole border between Nassau and Suffolk might prefer to go with NYC nowadays and would either prefer to go with or against it depending on the time period.

I think a State of Long Island would include Nassau County.

Agreed. They might even be able to get Queens and maybe even Brooklyn (with earlier PoDs) to go with them.
 
I doubt an earlier POD for Long Island is possible though. I think the best time for statehood was after World War II, the 1990s, and maybe now-ish. BTW, I'm from Smithtown.
 
I doubt an earlier POD for Long Island is possible though. I think the best time for statehood was after World War II, the 1990s, and maybe now-ish. BTW, I'm from Smithtown.

Idk, if the 70s and 80s crime wave in the city (or the economic state of it) is worse, people might want to separate completely.

I think the 90s was the most likely time though, that seems to be when LI was really turning away from the city in a ton of ways that are more toned down now.
 
Yep. And it was when the aerospace industry was still strong, before its collapse. At that point the suburbs reached their current point (IMO) of size and clout, and it was before the collapse of the unions and the aerospace industry packing and leaving elsewhere.
 
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