Name of United Scandinavia?

(If this is the wrong subforum, tell me)

We've had plenty of threads on HOW to unite Scandinavia, so let's do one on what the hell to call it. If you have a specific POD in mind, mention that too

Theres always the generic Kingdom of Scandinavia or United Kingdom(s) of Scandinavia, but that always seemed so boring to me

The Prince and the Thane mod for CK2 calls it the Union of Nordmannia, because apparently Nordmannia was what the Carolingians called the areas Denmark controlled

Bonus Question: A flag other than the Kalmar Union flag

Heres a couple I like
http://rarayn.deviantart.com/art/Scandinavian-Commonwealth-Flag-245314776?offset=30&
scandinavian_commonwealth_flag_by_rarayn-d421y3c.png


http://digitalismismycause.deviantart.com/art/Scandinavian-Union-158206165
Scandinavian_Union_by_DigitalismIsMyCause.jpg
 
It depends a lot of WHEN Scandinavia unites.

Does the Kalmar Union survive? Then probably "United Kingdoms of Denmark, Norway and Sweden". The Kingdoms were separate entities with separate laws but with the same King, and the name would reflect that.

Does Denmark take Sweden, or Sweden take Denmark in the 1600s? Then probably "Kingdom of Denmark-Norway-Sweden" or "Kingdom of Sweden-Denmark-Norway" respectively. One King, one nation that have annexed the others even if there's three thrones, it is only one Kingdom.

Does pan-scandinavianism result in a union in the latter half of the 1800s? Then probably "United Kingdoms of Scandinavia" or perhaps "Scandinavian Commonwealth". There would be two kings and three states, and the term Scandinavia would most likely be used.

A union after ww2 (seriously discussed) would probably be called something along the lines of "The Nordic Union"
 
Dagon said:
The Prince and the Thane mod for CK2 calls it the Union of Nordmannia, because apparently Nordmannia was what the Carolingians called the areas Denmark controlled
The Vikings were always seen as men of the North: that's why the Carolingians called them Nordman (Northmen). This word evolved in language, most notably becoming the word Normand, the people that later founded the Duchy of Normandy.

It's possible a united Scandinavia would be called "Nordmannia" or "Nordmannie" if it is united as early as the time of Charlemagne. It could also be called Normandie: though it would seem confusing with OTL Duchy of Normandy, there are plenty of examples of two regions with the same name. For exemple, there are two Galicias: one in North-western Spain, just north of Portugal, and the other in Eastern Europe. There are also two Léon: one which is a region of Spain, the other which was a small county in Britanny (The county exists in CK2, but more importantly the title was worn by members of the House of Rohan, a great noble house of Britanny (and France)).

Another possible name would be Scania: it is the name of an old Kingdom made of what would become Denmark, Sweden and Norway.

Besides that, I have nothing else to had because von Adler pretty much covered all the other possibilities.
 
If it controls just Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Greenland and Iceland, then it'd be the United Kingdom of Scandinavia or something like that.

If it controls the above and Finland and/or Estonia then it'd be something like the Nordic Commonwealth or Norden Federation.
 
I think the one problem that you are going to have when considering a name for a united Scandinavia is that you are naming it according to what the neighbouring countries would use "United Kingdoms of something" sounds british, Normandie sounds french and any name that the caroligians used for the region would be tossed out pretty quickly IMO... I don't know what a name for a united Scandinavia would be but i do know that it would depend alot on the time and causes behind the union.
 
"United Kingdoms of something" sounds british,

The term 'United Kingdom' predates Britain by over a thousand years, with the first mention being in the bible, referring to the United Kingdom of Israel and Judah.

I don't know what a name for a united Scandinavia would be but i do know that it would depend alot on the time and causes behind the union.

Scandinavia is the native term for it, though before Finland was annexed by Russia the most common term would've been Nordic/Norden, Scandinavia came into popularity in the 19th century as a way to advocate the Union of Denmark and Sweden without using the term Nordic/Norden, since that'd make the Russians angry, since the aforementioned term includes Finland.
 

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Union of Kalmar
United Kingdom of Sweden, Denmark and Norway
Scandinavia
Scandinavian Union
United Kingdoms of Scandinavia
Here there be dragons
Nordic Federation
Nordic Union
 
I could actually go for "Kongeriget Norden", or however you'd spell it in the rest of the Scandinavian languages. Not sure what it'd be called in English - "The Northern Kingdom" sounds a bit silly, so it might very well end up with a situation where it's called "Norden" in its native languages, but Scandinavia outside its borders.
 

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I could actually go for "Kongeriget Norden", or however you'd spell it in the rest of the Scandinavian languages. Not sure what it'd be called in English - "The Northern Kingdom" sounds a bit silly, so it might very well end up with a situation where it's called "Norden" in its native languages, but Scandinavia outside its borders.
In English it would be the Nordic Kingdom
 
Duh, yeah, sorry. I don't know why my brain was temporarily disabled there.

Anyhow, that's still kinda clunky. People like being able to reduce countries' names to one word - America, Britain and so on and so forth. What would you do for this one? In Danish, it could easily just become "Norden", but what would happen in English?
 
Anyhow, that's still kinda clunky. People like being able to reduce countries' names to one word - America, Britain and so on and so forth. What would you do for this one? In Danish, it could easily just become "Norden", but what would happen in English?
I guess it is not entirely impossible it'd be Norden in English. The name doesn't fit with English country naming habits, true, but that's not necessarily true for all OTL English country names either, and pronounciation-wise Norden isn't that hard to anglify.
 
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