Name of a surviving Kalmar Union

Assuming a kalmar union that remains stable through kings and queens that treat the three kingdoms somewhat equal rather than as parts of a "greater denmark" and reforms it into a real union sometime in the 1500-1600s, what would such a union be called?

Scandinavia as a political term rather than purely geographical one seemingly first emerged with scandinavism in the 1830's, similarly the term Nordic didn't become popular until post ww1 so both of those seem too modern for a union created in the 1500-1600's. As far as I understand "Kalmar Union" was never used to describe the union either and to be honest it also sucks as a name.

So what would the country be called? Denmark-Norway-Sweden? But that name is also pretty bad, and way to long.
 
Assuming a kalmar union that remains stable through kings and queens that treat the three kingdoms somewhat equal rather than as parts of a "greater denmark" and reforms it into a real union sometime in the 1500-1600s, what would such a union be called?

Scandinavia as a political term rather than purely geographical one seemingly first emerged with scandinavism in the 1830's, similarly the term Nordic didn't become popular until post ww1 so both of those seem too modern for a union created in the 1500-1600's. As far as I understand "Kalmar Union" was never used to describe the union either and to be honest it also sucks as a name.

So what would the country be called? Denmark-Norway-Sweden? But that name is also pretty bad, and way to long.

It would be called the kingdom or United Kingdom’s of Norden, I don’t know what it would be translated into in English, but before the rise of Scandinavianism, Nordic was simply a term for Scandinavians with the Finns being ignored, and I suspect without the Swedish minority dominating the the Grand Duchy of Finland, we would simply have kept the old use.
 
Perhaps it could be Union of Denmark, Norway and Sweden. But not sure if it would remain such very long and in some point probably would need some more practical name. It is bit long when you say Denmark-Norway-Sweden.
 
It would be called the kingdom or United Kingdom’s of Norden, I don’t know what it would be translated into in English, but before the rise of Scandinavianism, Nordic was simply a term for Scandinavians with the Finns being ignored, and I suspect without the Swedish minority dominating the the Grand Duchy of Finland, we would simply have kept the old use.

Maybe simply Kingdom of the North with it's inhabitants being Northmen/Northwomen? But that may also be to vague and suggest the kingdom also claiming territories it does not contain like northern russia or the british isles.
 
In the 16th century the Scandinavian personal union was referred to as “the eternal confederation”, “these three realms united” or “a single cord woven of three strings”. Later historiography has often described Denmark-Norway as the Oldenburg double monarchy. Most likely a successful Kalmar Union would therefore be known as The Triple Monarchy or the the United Kingdom of Scandinavia/Norden/the North.

It’s true that the nomenclature regarding Scandinavia has always been confused and contradictory: for example, as late as the early 19th century Russia was considered to be a Nordic country. In Diderot’s Encyclopédie from 1765 the term Scandinavia was used to describe the peninsula occupied by Denmark, Norway, Lappland, Sweden and Finland. Thus, Scandinavia became separated from the other ‘northern’ countries - namely the Slavic states of Russia and Poland. Conversely, the rise to prominence of the term Nordic/Norden was a direct result of the failure of political Scandinavianism in the later part of the 19th century.

However, these developments are all contingent on the way history developed in OTL. If the Kalmar Union managed to coalesce in the 15th/16th centuries into a single polity a common regional denominator would most likely arise. A possible parallel could be the way Castille and Aragon became known as Spain based on the old Roman province of Hispania. In this regard, Pliny the Elder's Scania would be the most likely equivalent. This in turn would mean some kind of United Kingdom of Scandinavia (or an ATL derivation).
 
In the 16th century the Scandinavian personal union was referred to as “the eternal confederation”, “these three realms united” or “a single cord woven of three strings”. Later historiography has often described Denmark-Norway as the Oldenburg double monarchy. Most likely a successful Kalmar Union would therefore be known as The Triple Monarchy or the the United Kingdom of Scandinavia/Norden/the North.

It’s true that the nomenclature regarding Scandinavia has always been confused and contradictory: for example, as late as the early 19th century Russia was considered to be a Nordic country. In Diderot’s Encyclopédie from 1765 the term Scandinavia was used to describe the peninsula occupied by Denmark, Norway, Lappland, Sweden and Finland. Thus, Scandinavia became separated from the other ‘northern’ countries - namely the Slavic states of Russia and Poland. Conversely, the rise to prominence of the term Nordic/Norden was a direct result of the failure of political Scandinavianism in the later part of the 19th century.

However, these developments are all contingent on the way history developed in OTL. If the Kalmar Union managed to coalesce in the 15th/16th centuries into a single polity a common regional denominator would most likely arise. A possible parallel could be the way Castille and Aragon became known as Spain based on the old Roman province of Hispania. In this regard, Pliny the Elder's Scania would be the most likely equivalent. This in turn would mean some kind of United Kingdom of Scandinavia (or an ATL derivation).

While Triple Monarchy sounds dope, it doesn't sound like a real name of a country, more like a historical term. The problem with Scania is that the name was already used to describe the eastern danish/southern swedish land, and in some cases considered it's own kingdom, using it as a term for the three kingdoms would be a little weird I think.
 
United Kingdom of Denmark-Sweden-Norway as the official name. The Kingdom of *insert Monarch name here*.

Relevant historically, politically, and easy and simple to relate to the three kingdoms since he was king of them.

In some time can become something like Philippines for King Philip.
 
While Triple Monarchy sounds dope, it doesn't sound like a real name of a country, more like a historical term. The problem with Scania is that the name was already used to describe the eastern danish/southern swedish land, and in some cases considered it's own kingdom, using it as a term for the three kingdoms would be a little weird I think.

It was also concurrently known amongst the scholars of the day that the Romans called the North Scania or Scatinavia. I doubt that would be an obstacle for the derivation of Scania-Scandinavia.

In some time can become something like Philippines for King Philip.

The two cases aren't compatible unfortunately.
 
While Triple Monarchy sounds dope, it doesn't sound like a real name of a country, more like a historical term. The problem with Scania is that the name was already used to describe the eastern danish/southern swedish land, and in some cases considered it's own kingdom, using it as a term for the three kingdoms would be a little weird I think.

I don't know, there is a United States and a United Kingdom.
 
I don't know, there is a United States and a United Kingdom.

Hm, but those countries are still the united kingdom/states of something, and people identify with being from that something to some degree. While I'm sure regional identity will still be a big deal in a united North I wonder what the united identity would be.
 
However, these developments are all contingent on the way history developed in OTL. If the Kalmar Union managed to coalesce in the 15th/16th centuries into a single polity a common regional denominator would most likely arise. A possible parallel could be the way Castille and Aragon became known as Spain based on the old Roman province of Hispania. In this regard, Pliny the Elder's Scania would be the most likely equivalent. This in turn would mean some kind of United Kingdom of Scandinavia (or an ATL derivation).

Maybe this is a stretch, but should a united Scandinavia want to borrow legitimacy from Antiquity, then perhaps the Gothicism of Sweden is extended to the entire union, with the Scandinavians as a whole claiming to be the direct descendants of the Goths. If so, the country could be named something like Gothland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothicism
 
Maybe this is a stretch, but should a united Scandinavia want to borrow legitimacy from Antiquity, then perhaps the Gothicism of Sweden is extended to the entire union, with the Scandinavians as a whole claiming to be the direct descendants of the Goths. If so, the country could be named something like Gothland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothicism

Interesting thought, though the name Gothia was already in use as a name for both Götaland in Sweden and the danish posession of Gotland, the title of king of the Goths was also used by both monarchies and would naturally be continued in a united monarchy.

Maybe it could become a primary title though, as it would combine both a danish and swedish title.
 
So what would the country be called? Denmark-Norway-Sweden? But that name is also pretty bad, and way to long.
A while back I came up with a sort of acronym for this: Dasvenor. I thought it convenient that it resembled a third-declension Latin noun.
 
Interesting thought, though the name Gothia was already in use as a name for both Götaland in Sweden and the danish posession of Gotland, the title of king of the Goths was also used by both monarchies and would naturally be continued in a united monarchy.

Maybe it could become a primary title though, as it would combine both a danish and swedish title.

I think that it would not since it applies to too small a part of the kingdom. I would agree with @Jürgen that something sharing an origin with Nordic would be used (I don't speak any Scandinavian languages, but judging his name, he probably speaks some Germanic language other than English & I expect he got the name right). I would guess that it would be a United Kingdom or the United Kingdoms of Norden, as a federal structure or at least lip service to their former independence would be useful for pleasing the swedes. I feel that the name has been thoroughly covered here, so I thought I'd give some insight on translations into other languages. I think Nordland is the most likely anglicization if the name even changes (Norden being pronouncable in English). The Kingdom of the North has something of an archaic feel to it and I think it would fall out of common use if the evolution of English vernacular stays more or less the same. Nordistan would be the most likely translation into Turkic languages & Nordiya or Nordska for Slavic languages.
 
In the 16th century the Scandinavian personal union was referred to as “the eternal confederation”, “these three realms united” or “a single cord woven of three strings”.
This sounds quite a bit similar to Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów. So how about "the Commonwealth", with a more elaborate official name like "The Commonwealth of Three Realms" or something along those lines. Of course, you have to butterfly away the PLC in this timeline :)
 
Maybe this is a stretch, but should a united Scandinavia want to borrow legitimacy from Antiquity, then perhaps the Gothicism of Sweden is extended to the entire union, with the Scandinavians as a whole claiming to be the direct descendants of the Goths. If so, the country could be named something like Gothland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothicism

The Danish kings had styled themselves as “kings of the Goths” ever since the rule of Valdemar IV Atterdag. The point being that Goths as such are seen as distinctive from Danes, Swedes and Norwegians.

This sounds quite a bit similar to Rzeczpospolita Obojga Narodów. So how about "the Commonwealth", with a more elaborate official name like "The Commonwealth of Three Realms" or something along those lines. Of course, you have to butterfly away the PLC in this timeline :)

Commonwealth is also a distinct possibility.
 
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