For Henry, how about Henrietta? After all, Maryland was going to be Mariana till they realized that was the name of a Spanish princess or queen if I remember right.
Name Changes to US States
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i've more or less decided on Henrico (or possibly Henricus or Henricopolis; i'd like some second opinions) for the Carolinas, though i still want some further input on whether it should be named after the king or after the lost colony (Roanoke)
the mention of Maryland also made me think about that one, so i looked into it and decided that, given the other changes so far to the TL, keeping it named "Maryland" doesn't make as much sense; Henry IX's wife at the time is a fictional Scottish noblewoman named Jamesina (who's supposed to be the daughter of Mary Queen of Scots, kind of a Rule 63 of James I & VI). so now i need to figure out what to call Maryland instead, too
though maybe just straight-up naming it "Jamesina" would doOr you could retcon Jamesina's name to Mary.i've more or less decided on Henrico (or possibly Henricus or Henricopolis; i'd like some second opinions) for the Carolinas, though i still want some further input on whether it should be named after the king or after the lost colony (Roanoke)
the mention of Maryland also made me think about that one, so i looked into it and decided that, given the other changes so far to the TL, keeping it named "Maryland" doesn't make as much sense; Henry IX's wife at the time is a fictional Scottish noblewoman named Jamesina (who's supposed to be the daughter of Mary Queen of Scots, kind of a Rule 63 of James I & VI). so now i need to figure out what to call Maryland instead, too
Davidsland?
Or perhaps more biblical - New Judah and then the north becomes New Israel?
Or perhaps more biblical - New Judah and then the north becomes New Israel?
Or a daughter or perhaps a Sister who died young?
That's a terrible name.
I'd be going with what Codae said
i decided to retcon the etymology so that its named after Mary, Queen of Scots, who is Jamesina's mother and Henry IX's mother-in-law ITTL. though naming it after a fictional sister could also work
If theres any welsh connexion, Tir Dewi (sant) would work. It would be a riff on Ty Ddewi, a famous ? Monastery? In wales. St David being the patron saint thereof.
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If not royal names, you can name them after place names associated with peerages. OTL for example New York was named after the Duke of York. New Jersey was so named because Jersey remained loyal to the King in the English Civil War. You can name them after titles or attributes associated with monarchs: Virginia was named for Elizabeth the Virgin Queen. Or perhaps the name of the royal house, not used in OTL but it easily could have been. Or you can just have them named after the places the colonists originally came from, like New Hampshire. Furthermore, as Connecticut demonstrates, it's not like there was a stigma to using native names at this point.
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When naming things after Jameses, you always use the Latin form, Jacobus. So it would be Jacobea (as in the Jacobean period, when James VI and I was on the throne).
Could use Drake, maybe the latin forme? Franciscus Drakus? Drakia?http://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciscus_Drakus#cite_note-0
Later ellided to Draka, surely.
Ah rathuh lahk the soun' a' Sath Jacobea, the Ole' home a' the 'riginal plantuhs.
i have the English Civil War butterflied away in my ASB ATL, so maybe a new name would be better considering that. what do you think would be best?
Have you discarded the reign of Elizabeth I? If so, you'll need to add renaming Virginia to your list. Unless you have another monarch to attach the moniker to. Probably female-I doubt anyone would want to be remembered as the "Virgin King".
If her (or another's) reign is similiar to that OTL, perhaps she can get a 2nd colony named after her (now that there are more to deal with)? I like the name "Gloriana".
For names of royal houses (or just of place names) can we get a big jump ahead to the Colony of Windsor?
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Just come up with some similar historical story, like say "bloke who founded colony was Lord Percy, Duke of Northumberland, so the colony gets called after a Latinised name of him or part of his domain: Percia, Northumbria, Morpitia, etc." Actually "Bernicia" could be a good one as that's the Latin form of the early Anglo-Saxon colony in the region, so that would work well as an analogy for a new colony overseas.
No, because that was made up in five minutes in 1917 when they hastily needed an English-sounding name to the German existing one
Whose the father of Henry IX? In OTL Charles II named the colony after his father Charles I. If Charles I is the father of Henry IX it could still be Carolina.
the idea is that he's Elizabeth I's son, born out of wedlock but raised to become king one day, and his father would be Robert Dudley, the Earl of Leicester. ITTL, both Charleses are butterflied away but their roles are occupied by fictional kings Robert I and Robert II
though again, i want to focus on state naming rather than the history of the British royals for the purposes of this discussion.
incidentally, i decided to look into New Jersey and decided on renaming it New Stratton after one of the founder's homes, but i'm not too sure about it. i may default back to "New Bernicia"
Interestingly, one of the most plausible theories for the origin of the name Oregon is that the pre-Anglicised name of Wisconsin unintentionally traveled westward on some early 18th century French maps and lost the last syllable in a freak typo, and was then vaguely Anglicised at its destination separately from the parent word.