My Britwank-verse: Questions I've been Mulling Over

VT45

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Hey everyone. I just had a couple questions I've been mulling over in my mind for a while from my Britwank-verse (map found here). My biggest questions concern the Republic of Florida, a dominion equivalent for Spain. I'm very interested in the language breakdown, since when Spain got back Florida in the 1780s (in order to stay out of the Revolution), the majority of the inhabitants were British colonists. So, that would have a lasting impact, but I'm sure that the refugees in Cuba would move back rather quickly, at least some of them anyway. I'm also wondering what the road system would look like as well.

Anyway, post any questions you have, or pose questions of your own. I can try to answer them, or you can see if you can come up with your own answers.
 
To be honest, I don't consider the addition of dominions in the map wanky at all, considering all they were was independent states tied by the monarchy. Unless dominion has a different meaning in your universe.
 

VT45

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To be honest, I don't consider the addition of dominions in the map wanky at all, considering all they were was independent states tied by the monarchy. Unless dominion has a different meaning in your universe.

It's not really a wank, that's how I refer to it though. Though the conquest of Persia, India, and more than half of the Ottoman Empire before 1880...
 
Look at Belize OTL, and reverse the status of English and Spanish. Maybe stir in some Creole English-Amerindian languages.
 

VT45

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Okay, cool. And for the moment, I've been keeping Louisiana separate, as it's sparsely populated and filled with potentially hostile native tribes. Does anyone have any ideas what could be going on there?
 
I was wondering how the Empire ended up with Naples, Dalmatia, Sardinia and Greece (but not Minorca or Corsica, both of which the UK controlled, if briefly, OTL). Also I was wondering where that vast swathe of Germany came from? And also, has no other European nation got African colonies or has Africa just not been drawn yet?

Not disagreeing with this stuff - just interested.

Also, no Moskito Coast? :(
 

VT45

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I was wondering how the Empire ended up with Naples, Dalmatia, Sardinia and Greece (but not Minorca or Corsica, both of which the UK controlled, if briefly, OTL). Also I was wondering where that vast swathe of Germany came from? And also, has no other European nation got African colonies or has Africa just not been drawn yet?

Not disagreeing with this stuff - just interested.

Also, no Moskito Coast? :(

Africa hasn't been drawn yet. And the Sicilians control those regions. As for the German-coloured state in OTL Austria-south Germany-Switzerland-Italy, that is a rump HRE that ended up federating after Prussia and Britain grew and split the north between them.
 
Can I ask a question about the situation in the low countries (as that is kind of my speciality*). How did the Netherlands become part of the "Britwank"? It has strangly modern borders for a pre-Napolenic POD, so it looks like it happened after even the Belgian revolt (the Limburg-border for example), which makes it kind of unlikely (if not impossible without a British conquest).

Also what happened to Belgium? It looks kind of strange as it is, with France owning Hainaut and Namur, but Belgium still controling Liege and Luxemburg. Its borders also suggest a post Napolenic POD, in which Belgium manages to become independent from the Netherlands, after which France manages to gobble up part of it, with Britain not caring anything about it.




*well,... more exact the only thing I know anything about and as most people here often know even less of it, i can pretend it is my speciality.
 

VT45

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The POD is 1777, in which the British troops are able to defeat the American rebels in the Saratoga Campaign, and thereby winning the revolution within a couple years. The Netherlands were gained through conquest during a more recent war in the 1810s, similar to the Napoleonic Wars, which is how Hannover expanded so much as well. The PU never ended, and Hannover and Holland, as it's called in the United Kingdom, were incorporated as full constituent kingdoms, such as Scotland or Ireland at the time.
 
The POD is 1777, in which the British troops are able to defeat the American rebels in the Saratoga Campaign, and thereby winning the revolution within a couple years. The Netherlands were gained through conquest during a more recent war in the 1810s, similar to the Napoleonic Wars, which is how Hannover expanded so much as well. The PU never ended, and Hannover and Holland, as it's called in the United Kingdom, were incorporated as full constituent kingdoms, such as Scotland or Ireland at the time.
Could work. Does it butterfly away the French revolution? In that case you could use the struggle between the patriots and the stadholder as excuse. Britain get involved and supports the stadholder (who married into the British royal family), opposing the pro-French patriots. Ok, that doesn't realy explain the border of Limburg, which is too modern (Limburg is the Dutch appendix, its border with Germany were decided in 1815, and the borders with Belgium in 1839. Before that only half of it was Dutch, while the other half was either Spanish/Austrian, Prussian or some other factions, even Bavarian I believe).
 
Wait, how can it be a dominion equivalent if it's the Republic of Florida? Without a monarchy, what exactly ties it to Spain?
 
Wait, how can it be a dominion equivalent if it's the Republic of Florida? Without a monarchy, what exactly ties it to Spain?

The same thing that tied the British dominions to Britain - culture, language, general ethnicity, law systems (I assume on all of this).

Also, dominion could have a different meaning.
 

VT45

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Republic in the archaic sense of the word. There was once a time when the word 'republic' meant any government that was governed democratically, whether it had a monarch or not. So, in the case of the Spanish Empire, it still means that. A Spanish republic is a region of the Spanish Empire that has some sort of democratic home rule, as opposed to being ruled directly from Madrid.
 

VT45

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Also, because I haven't done it myself, anyone have any ideas what internal divisions in Louisiana might look like?
 
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