Mussolini Waived Away NLT 1920

Vaguely remember this one elsewhere, but here it would be to old to Necro.

I'm thinking no Mussolini means no Italian Facism? So how does Italy develop politically through to the 1940s?

How does this affect the development of the nazi party & German revanchism in the 1920s & 30s? I am guessing there will be differences, but the core of it was personality driven by men like Hitler, Goering Heydrich, Gobbels, Bormann, ect... So we'd still see something very similar to OTL in Germany.
 
It will probably just somewhat more stable than the French Third Republic, mostly due to the presence of the King and the voting of an equivalent of the OTL Acerbo Law (an electoral law that allowed the Fascist to win enough seat at the election and take control of the goverment through legal means), but ITTL will be a little more fair giving at the winner party less seat or/and needing a much more higher numbers of vote than a filmsy 25%. The most important parties will be the PSU (moderate socialist) led by Matteotti, the PPI (democratic christian), the PSI and PCI (in the end communist and more radical socialist will probably end together), Liberals (remnants of the old enstablishment) and some nationalistic/hard rigth wing/fascist-like party.
Something very similar to the OTL agreement with the church to officially normalize the relationships between the Pope and the Kingdom of Italy will be signed, as Benny basically took merit of the work of others and the talking about this type of treaty started long time before the fascist took over.
Economically things will be probably better as frankly except in their mind Mussolini and co. were not the sharpest administrators and part of their method to maintain social peace was to give at various industries a de facto monopoly/oligopoly that in the long run created a very uncompetitive and obsolete industry; plus there will be not that enourmous waste of resources that were the war in Spain and Abyssinia, not even considering the damage done by the sanctions and the idiotic attempt to create an autarchy.
Socially, things will be very different for the women, even with the PPI (christian) in charges, it will be doubtfoul that they will be totally discarted from the workforce like OTL due to the belief of the Fascist that the woman role in society was only as wife and mother; not due to the fact that the PPI thing otherwise (as they have the same general attitude of the fascist in this) but just because they will just be too occupied to block any attempt to bring woman suffrage to the national stage (in some local election they were already permitted to vote) and because doing a things like that in a democracy is much much more difficult.

The nazi big wigs will find others to use as example as the period really don't lack of authoritarian dictators and Germany will be revanchist regardless of Italy takeover by the fascist.

THere will be a lot of the changes in the foreign politics, as said no Abyssinia war (nobody was really interested in that kind of adventure) and no support for the Nationalist in Spain (at least not at the level of Mussolini) so it's very probable that's the republicans will win...and a later takeover by the communist by force.
Ironically an earlier Anshluss can happen, as in 1934 when Adolf tried the first time if Italy is left alone i doubt that they will do anything except protest and send troops at the border.
 
The Black Shirts will still be in business as rightwing thugs but probably lacking somebody to propagate their views into a political agenda.
 
Ya, I'd expect that as well. In theory another charismatic leader could use them to gain the government. But, that leader may not have the imperial ambitions, or political skills of Mussolini. I'd not want to predict the same leader with a different name. More likely the Blackshirts remain a disruptive fringe group.
 
The problem with the blackshirts it's that they were not a very unified front till Benny took control, more an hodgepodge agglomerate that nominally operated under a single very vague ideology and in reality there were a lot of conflict of interest between various regional groups.
The only real charismatic leader during the very pivotal period of the 20's was D'Annunzio but it lacked not only the political and organizational skills to really unifiy the various part and form a single movement but was seen by many member of the enstablishment as a radical revolutionary (even if the brother of the King was one of his staunchest supporter) so it will extremely difficult if not impossible for him coopt the support of the old and new money or the monarchy and the liberal enstablishment to get in the power seat.
Maybe Balbo can do it, he had charisma and the organizational skills still many regional fascist Ras will oppose him and he is not that famous, plus at the time he was a notorious republican so he will be seen as a big menace by the monarchy.
 
Looking over similar & vaguely related threads its looking like this avoids Italy as a German ally. Unless some other pro German leader takes charge Italy is going to stay closer to the old Entente relationship with France. That could complicate & delay a nazi effort to annex Austria. Might even lead to a earlier German/Franco war.
 
Looking over similar & vaguely related threads its looking like this avoids Italy as a German ally. Unless some other pro German leader takes charge Italy is going to stay closer to the old Entente relationship with France.

my picture is Field Marshall Badoglio (or someone else?? of his generation) and rule by committee. something like OTL writ small.

wonder the development of the military? cannot see anyone else spending MORE?
 
Vaguely remember this one elsewhere, but here it would be to old to Necro.

I'm thinking no Mussolini means no Italian Facism? So how does Italy develop politically through to the 1940s?

How does this affect the development of the nazi party & German revanchism in the 1920s & 30s? I am guessing there will be differences, but the core of it was personality driven by men like Hitler, Goering Heydrich, Gobbels, Bormann, ect... So we'd still see something very similar to OTL in Germany.
What if the fascists and their allies build up a military power basis in one of th Italian colonies in Africa ( like Lybia) like Franco did in Spain and set over in time of instability ? Maybe a different version of the march on Rome
 
What if the fascists and their allies build up a military power basis in one of th Italian colonies in Africa ( like Lybia) like Franco did in Spain and set over in time of instability ? Maybe a different version of the march on Rome

Libya need to be reconquered and Somalia in OTL also seen fight due to the need of end the Dervish rebellion, so it will be very difficult create a military force there but more importantly the army is not ideological fractured at the moment so it will stand with the King and the same it's the Navy (and it will be necessary to transport troops from Africa to the mainland)
 
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