Music What ifs?

The day the music lived?:p Buddy & Richie say, "I hate flying.":D Or, they've actually got a promoter who's not a scumbag (OK, ASB:D) & a bus that isn't a piece of sh*t, so they don't have to fly--but the Bopper is late, & he falls under it & is killed.:eek::p

Or, Stevie Ray says, "I ain't goin' up in that contraption" & doesn't die.:cool::cool:
 
Randy Rhoads

What if Randy Rhoads doesn't die in 1982?

What if the Hair Metal bands didn't self-destruct because of their own decadence by the end of the 80's and early 90's?

Also, someone said that Selena wouldn't have had nearly the popularity that she had if she wasn't killed. But, what if, instead of her talking to Yolanda, her father does, and he gets killed, or he stops her from shooting him? And Selena lives? I watched the movie about her, and it seems like she was getting ready to do a crossover tour, and he was into designing her own clothes. Is there a chance that she could have been part of the Latin Music Explosion in 1999?
 
What if Alex Harvey lives?

What if Saxon become just as popular as Iron Maiden instead of losing all their fans to them.
 
What if Cliff Burton survived the tourbus crash in 1986?
I don't know. Cliff said that he would like to experiment a bit with Metallica in the future. Would they still be able to keep up the level of their first three albums? I don't know.

What if Keith Moon quit The Who and joined the Beatles, who would sack Ringo? Keith Moon proposed this to John and Paul in 1968-69.

It would be a really cool band. I'm really curious what sort of music they would be making. I don't think it could stop them from breaking up, though. John and Paul would eventually clash anyway, maybe one or two years later.

What if John Lennon never met Paul and The Beatles would be a three-piece making music similar to that in OTL, John goes to art-school and in 1966, he meets Syd Barrett and replaces Bob Klose in Pink Floyd?
Awesome.
 
Music

What if Steve Perry never became the lead singer of Journey?

What if Jim Croce didn't die in a plane crash?

What if Bon Scott, AC/DC's lead singer, never died in 1980?
 
The three Js...

Jim Morrison/The Doors:
1965 - Jim goes into film not music....
1967 - On the Ed Sullivan Show, Jim Morrison makes the reqested change in "Light My Fire", singing "Girl we couldn't get much better"
1969 - Jim gets the book thrown at him in Miami.
1971 - Jim snorts Pam Courson's smack, instead of passing out, she calls an ambulance saving his life...

Janis Joplin:
Late 50s - Janis sticks with painting, never becomes a singer
1965 - Janis kicks the drug habit, marries
1966 - Dave Getz keeps drugs out of Janis' scene, she stays clean
1970 - having kicked the smack in Brazil, she stays off for good...

Jimi Hendrix:
1961 - instead of the army, Jimi goes to jail for his joy riding
1961 - Jimi shapes up, becomes a model paratroop, and ends up getting shipped to 'Nam...
 
Michael Bolton

What if Michael Bolton stays metal and doesn't go the adult contemporary crooning route in the late 80's-early 90's? He used to be a part of a metal band called Blackjack, and then had some solo albums in the mid-80s. Here is the title hit for his 1985 album Everybody's Crazy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy2XMYh99js
 
One I'd like to see explored is a popular music scene without jazz. Since a lot of modern music is derived from jazz in some way or another, I'd be interested in seeing how music would evolve without it.
 
What if Freedie Mercury's family decided to stay in either Zanzibar or India?

What if Jim Morrison didn't die so young?

What if the "Paul (McCartney) is dead" 1966 hoax was true?
 
One I'd like to see explored is a popular music scene without jazz. Since a lot of modern music is derived from jazz in some way or another, I'd be interested in seeing how music would evolve without it.

Doing away with the Blues is an even deeper means to the same goal. ;)

The major difficulty here is how to do away with either. The prime way I can see id to dissrupt the African influance on NA music - either change African music or do away with the slave trade...
 
Doing away with the Blues is an even deeper means to the same goal. ;)

The major difficulty here is how to do away with either. The prime way I can see id to dissrupt the African influance on NA music - either change African music or do away with the slave trade...

Or have something happen to New Orleans that destroys its black population, which would prevent the Blues from growing- or at least, in the way that it did in OTL.

That would suck. I only just got into jazz in the last few weeks.
 
What if the "Paul (McCartney) is dead" 1966 hoax was true?

OK. For a start I'll think they'll want Management FAST after Brian Epstein dies.. I'm going to go for Allen Klein to take over in early 1968.

John and George get a few more songs on The White album, which keeps their interest in the band strong. (Especially George, who gets far more of his songs on disc)
George Martin helps with writing the odd 'Macca-style' tune, and bass-playing replacement William Campbell goes along with band decisions, happy just to be a part of it all.. no-one really notices Paul's writing less songs, because they're all credited "Lennon-McCartney".

Still Klein is worried by Yoko. Keen to have his investment protected, he discourages John from working with Yoko.. eventually having her deported back to the USA on some trumped-up drugs charge.

The Beatles keep planting clues to Paul's death in their albums.. and the career keeps going more-or-less as in OTL.

However, during an interview after the release of Abbey Road, John is hounded about some mad rumour doing the rounds in the USA that Paul is dead.
He emotionally breaks and confesses that the rumours are true.
William Campbell has been living Paul's life for 3 years, and with the help of George Martin they've been faking McCartney songs since "Penny Lane".

Allen Klein keeps a tight lid on non-beatles activities - and under Klein's threats, Lennon actively participates in the damage-control that's needed in this situation.

Immediately Campbell is fired from The Beatles, in the interest of having a new start.
Klaus Voorman is drafted-in as bass player.
Campbell scores a hit or two (produced by George Martin), but soon fades into obscurity.

The others carry on.. another album is released in 1970 - a compromise, mixing some of George's "All things must pass" tunes with the less vitriolic tunes that John has to offer.. in an effort to get a hit album out.

BUT there is tension in the sessions...
Inspired by Led Zeppelin, The MC5, The Stooges & countless other heavy bands, John, Ringo & Klaus want to play loud ROCK with the odd weird jam. George wants to record mellower, more spiritual tunes.
Tensions come to a head when George vetos "Cold Turkey" being the next Beatles single.

At the end of 1970, George is fired from The Beatles.
Allen Klein abandons the band ("It was a f***ing mess!" he recalls years later in an interview. "No-one could manage it")
The others carry-on, renamed as Plastic. (After John's first suggestion of "Plastic Ono Band" is turned down by the others). They struggle with the first album, eventually pulling in Eric Clapton to help with sessions.

john Lennon is now totelly pissed-off. With all the to-ings and fro-ings, the cover-ups, the bullshit, the "cosmic" attitude of George Harrison.. and bullying then abandonment by Klein - not to mention grief for McCartney & bitterness at Yoko being taken away.

The resulting album is spiky, loud, full of attitude. The songs are there, only no-one can get past the transformation.

(On release, John refers to the music on the album as "grotty-rock" - "You got psychedelic what-ever-you call it, well I wanted something that blows that all away - all of that bullshit. It's 1990s music anyway.. a lot of people just aren't ready to move on")

By the late '70s, the album "Disposable" by Plastic is considered a high-point in pre-punk, and one of the great acts of artistic daring.
 
Or have something happen to New Orleans that destroys its black population, which would prevent the Blues from growing- or at least, in the way that it did in OTL.

That would suck. I only just got into jazz in the last few weeks.

Ohohoh!!!! "Black Plauge" FTW!!!! To bad it's pretty much totally ASB in the timeframe.

Anywho, it's not just NOLA that you've got to get rid of. You'll have to root out the Mississippi delta blues (take the *last* train to Clarksville...), and all the assorted places the Blues came from... (Memphis, East Texas, Dallas, Kansas City, even Chicago...)

To really and truely rid popular music of Jazz will require rooting out the Blues, and that's almost certainly going to involve an African PoD...
 
WI Kurt Cobain dies earlier - before the Nevermind album is recorded?

(Lets say circa mid-1990....?)

Would any of the other grunge bands have a chance of breaking through to the mainstream, without Nirvana kicking the door down?

How different would '90s rock be without grunge...?

I'm picking that hair-metal survives for longer, evolving more into epic songs inspired by Guns'n'Roses work on the Use Your Illusion albums.. already it sounds like moving to a prog-rock revival (of sorts...)

I'm not sure what this means for British rock bands though.. there's already a thriving indie/dance scene that was overwhelmed by grunge in OTL.. What would this new TL mean for an indie/dance band like Blur - by 1994 would they still feel the need to revert to Kinks-inspired Britpop?
 
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