Music AHC : How to prevent the standardisation of chord progressions ?

Since even before the 20th century, chord progressions of I IV V vi playing on different keys have been gradually standardised. How do you prevent this from happening ?
 
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I'm afraid I don't know enough about music to understand what you are talking about, but I know that eventual standardisation in a wildly respected field such as music is impossible to prevent. The best you can hope for is different standards to exist next to each other for a time, until music based of a single standard comes to dominate.
 
You've chosen quite a niche topic and it's very tricky to respond to a general statement such as the one you have made. If you had a more specific idea that needs fleshing out you might get a better response.
I have provided 2 vague ideas but I would like to preface this by saying I'm not well-versed on musical development so it could be complete BS and it may well be approaching ASB level in some instances,But here we go:

One way would be if we(as humans) didn't appreciate/grasp melodies, and the rhythmic/percussive side of music was the focal point throughout musical history( proper cavemen style , just beating sticks,drums etc. )

If Percussion instruments paved the way and we seen as the key/lead/ 1st in all musical pieces then would we have chord progressions, or even instruments capable of doing that when chords melodies etc. wouldn't be deemed musical to listen to? Because our whole inbuilt sense of musicality was different from the start?

Or if the way music is commonly used with a progression/melody accompanied by other instruments set to a beat was flipped so actually the beat was the focal point? what need would there be for chord progressions if the rhythm/beat/percussion was all anyone focused on?

(Feel free to say this is all completely rubbish btw,as I said it's a bit wacky even to me :D )



Another way(and possibly more realistic) what if what we think of as time signatures or even just musical notation was never invented/standardized, so there were no regular time signatures or patterns to invent progressions on,therefore if everything was written in free time or improvised, progressions would exist but never be standardized across the board and instruments of types or even different keys.

In terms of western music that would require a POD no later than before the 13th century when mensural notation was devised,
or even earlier if Rhymic nodes in early medieval times were never noted down as semi-standard musical notation. no idea about elsewhere though.
Could that ripple out to answer your question?




Sorry but it's an answer to your "sad bump",I hope it helps if only to eliminate some possibilities....
 
You've chosen quite a niche topic and it's very tricky to respond to a general statement such as the one you have made. If you had a more specific idea that needs fleshing out you might get a better response.
I have provided 2 vague ideas but I would like to preface this by saying I'm not well-versed on musical development so it could be complete BS and it may well be approaching ASB level in some instances,But here we go:

One way would be if we(as humans) didn't appreciate/grasp melodies, and the rhythmic/percussive side of music was the focal point throughout musical history( proper cavemen style , just beating sticks,drums etc. )

If Percussion instruments paved the way and we seen as the key/lead/ 1st in all musical pieces then would we have chord progressions, or even instruments capable of doing that when chords melodies etc. wouldn't be deemed musical to listen to? Because our whole inbuilt sense of musicality was different from the start?

Or if the way music is commonly used with a progression/melody accompanied by other instruments set to a beat was flipped so actually the beat was the focal point? what need would there be for chord progressions if the rhythm/beat/percussion was all anyone focused on?

(Feel free to say this is all completely rubbish btw,as I said it's a bit wacky even to me :D )



Another way(and possibly more realistic) what if what we think of as time signatures or even just musical notation was never invented/standardized, so there were no regular time signatures or patterns to invent progressions on,therefore if everything was written in free time or improvised, progressions would exist but never be standardized across the board and instruments of types or even different keys.

In terms of western music that would require a POD no later than before the 13th century when mensural notation was devised,
or even earlier if Rhymic nodes in early medieval times were never noted down as semi-standard musical notation. no idea about elsewhere though.
Could that ripple out to answer your question?




Sorry but it's an answer to your "sad bump",I hope it helps if only to eliminate some possibilities....


I think I ought to have been more specific but the standardisation of chord progression of mainstream music of the West using IV I vi V of course with different keys.
 
I'd say you cannot. That specific series of frequencies (or rather sets of frequencies) simply resonates with the human ear. Any event of popularization of music will end up with this chord progression as it catches on and becomes imitated by everyone looking to create a hit single.
Unless, of course, the whole world listens to some fusion jazz, in which case I'd argue life is not possible on Earth.
 
The relationship between tonic (or I) and dominant (or V) chords is really deeply mathematical and really hard to avoid. However, the major and minor scales (and thus, even the existence of the IV and vi chords) is definitely something specific to Western music). So, if you want a different basic chord progression, you just need to have a history of music which creates different fundamental scales (rather than major and minor scales) like pentatonic scales, chromatic scales, quarter-tone scales, etc.

Probably the easiest way to do this is to make one of the other OTL musical traditions (as opposed to the Western tradition) become dominant. As someone who only has studied music theory and history within the Western tradition, I don't really have any more concrete suggestions that that.

Alternately, you could change the history of the Western tradition so that the major/minor scales don't arise. Maybe you instead get a musical scale based upon Dorian mode (which I particularly like because of its symmetry), or one of the other modes other than Ionian Mode (which became the major scale) and Aeolian Mode (which became the minor scale).
 
I wonder if 19-tet music could ever get as popular as 12-tet in an ATL. 12 tone scales have been around for a while but it would be nice if 19-tet music was more popular.

Here's a demonstration of what 19-tet sounds like.
 
The two engines for diversity of music during the Baroque time frame were church music (giving at least eight modes + their plagal variants, church chorales, etc) and political disunity (princely competition in the Germanies and in Italy - some good music was written in France and England as well but it often sounds more “standard”, as well as imported (Lully, Haendel, Gluck...)).
 
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