The autumn of 1944 was not the best time for anyone to be lecturing Stalin on ideological matters or demanding weapons and equipment. STAVKA were laying out their own plans for operations against the Japanese and they did not involve catering to the demands of Mao Zedong [9].​




[9] Mao and Stalin’s relationship is getting frostier.
Manchurian SSR? (Also, given Sino-Soviet relations are worse, could there be a Soviet Annexation of Mongolia?)
On another note, this might avoid the Shenanigans of Mao in the 60's and 70's, since it seems he'll be holed up in Yan'an until the Nationalists come knocking
 
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Manchurian SSR? (Also, given Sino-Soviet relations are worse, could there be a Soviet Annexation of Mongolia?)
On another note, this might avoid the Shenanigans of Mao in the 60's and 70's, since it seems he'll be holed up in Yan'an until the Nationalists come knocking
Oh the Nationalist will be very firmly guided not to do that.
 
Will a earlier Japanese defeat lead to a two China in mainland like OTL Two Germany's? And will the Russians reach Korea or The British get there before the Russians ?
 
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Will a earlier Japanese defeat lead to a two China in mainland like OTL Two Germany's? And will the Russians reach Korea or The British get there before the Russians ?
The Communists will be confined to Manchuria, their version of Taiwan and Korea is due for a couple of updates shortly.
 
Will a earlier Japanese defeat lead to a two China in mainland like OTL Two Germany's? And will the Russians reach Korea or The British get there before the Russians ?
There was two China's historically - they simply started fighting again immeadiatly (though they hadn't exactly stopped during Second Sino-Japanese War).
 
Will the UK try to get Nationalist China to extend the Lease of Hong Kong in exchange for support against Comunist?
 
Can he really avoid introducing some sort of system?
There wasn't much change to Social Security from 45-49. Most of what Roosevelt did was pre POD and there wouldn't be substantial changes till 1965. Dewey is also unlikely to use political capital on it. The labor question and reducing business regulation will be the more conservative priorities of his admin. Eastern establishment was mostly fine with Social Security by then.
 

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There wasn't much change to Social Security from 45-49. Most of what Roosevelt did was pre POD and there wouldn't be substantial changes till 1965. Dewey is also unlikely to use political capital on it. The labor question and reducing business regulation will be the more conservative priorities of his admin. Eastern establishment was mostly fine with Social Security by then.

Agreed about Social Security. Absolutely no chance Dewey would try and eliminate it.

As for organized labor, it's worth remembering that Dewey had rather good relations with organized labor IOTL. Sidney Hillman called him "a true friend of the workingman" and the International Ladies Garment Workers Union was one of the biggest contributors to his 1937 campaign for D.A. Likewise when he was Governor, New York had the best record during the war for time lost to strikes and during the war Governor Dewey doubled strike mediation funds, established a State School of Labor and Industrial Relations at Cornell, added 400,000 workers to those covered by the minimum wage laws, and pushed a big investigation into doctors and lawyers that were cheating the workmen's compensation system. Given Dewey's record of good relations with organized labor I would expect him to be rather moderate on the labor question (though mob or communist controlled unions will likely be in for a rough time during his administration.)
 

Garrison

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There wasn't much change to Social Security from 45-49. Most of what Roosevelt did was pre POD and there wouldn't be substantial changes till 1965. Dewey is also unlikely to use political capital on it. The labor question and reducing business regulation will be the more conservative priorities of his admin. Eastern establishment was mostly fine with Social Security by then.
And by the 1960s things will be somewhat different politically. Just as a thought experiment imagine China doesn't go communist, so is there a HUAC? What if the 60s unfold without the political and cultural impact of Vietnam/ What if the shifting political landscape means no Nixon in the White House and so no Watergate? This sort of thing is why I don't intend to do any addendums that take place later than the 1970s.
 

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Agreed about Social Security. Absolutely no chance Dewey would try and eliminate it.

As for organized labor, it's worth remembering that Dewey had rather good relations with organized labor IOTL. Sidney Hillman called him "a true friend of the workingman" and the International Ladies Garment Workers Union was one of the biggest contributors to his 1937 campaign for D.A. Likewise when he was Governor, New York had the best record during the war for time lost to strikes and during the war Governor Dewey doubled strike mediation funds, established a State School of Labor and Industrial Relations at Cornell, added 400,000 workers to those covered by the minimum wage laws, and pushed a big investigation into doctors and lawyers that were cheating the workmen's compensation system. Given Dewey's record of good relations with organized labor I would expect him to be rather moderate on the labor question (though mob or communist controlled unions will likely be in for a rough time during his administration.)
I wonder if it might be easier for him to deal with such things as a Republican President?
 
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