I know that but your describing the state they were in at the start of 1945 IOTL but its only the start of 1944.
Munich Shuffle: 1938-1942
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The bombing campaign has also been decidedly more effective, especially after the follow up to the Dambuster Raid, their overall position has deteriorated faster and Hitler has been insisting on still pouring disproportionate resources in the east.
That all happened IOTL but here there was no Italian campaign and you described the German losses at Kursk as being less that OTL.
The Allied air campaign didn't really kick into high gear until the summer of 19944, taking all this into consideration only leads me to think the Germans would be hurting but not at late 1944 level.
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I could see something like that happening even though I don't think Stalin deserves any part of Poland but the Wallies will have to accommodate him someway.
And in practice, if the Red Army takes Poland, WAllies can do little about it.
Sir, I agree with you, IN THEORY. In theory, communism works, IN THEORY.
There's also the other side of the coin, that the earlier Axis successes have been less successful in comparison to OTL, and that with things turning for the worse earlier it meant the amount of loot and production was also lesser (though hard for the format to make it clear).
For Berlin, the Allies could reach a compromisse - outside of the planned airborne operation, the British could surround from the north and the US from the south, almost like in the Falaise pocket OTL
I hope someone round here's got the skills to effectively depict the post-war borders of TTL when the time comes.
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That would be good, I have no intention of embarrassing myself with my own feeble efforts.
specifically, my guess is that poland gets the southern half of East Prussia and the eastern chunk of Pomerania.
Either way, it seems poland, romania and czechoslovakia are being thrown under the red-clad bus
This is my guess for what Post-War European borders look like, Yugoslavia, Albania, East Germany, Slovakia and Finland I believe will be in the Eastern bloc, along with maybe romania if they can't get the hell out of dodge soon enough
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It's interesting but there are couple of points to consider. If the Allies do better in North via the British and in the centre owing to the Americans then the Soviets might have to accept a very different shape to their occupation zone in Germany. Also as already mentioned Yugoslavia will have a considerably different shape.
I volunteer to try and make a Q-BAM of the post-war borders. I could try a present day map as well if you're interested.
