Mowque Reads TL-191
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Funnily enough either of those works well. Though I'm now going to give Custer Zapp's voice and have Dowling have the voice of Eager Young Space cadet when I read the series again
This is one of a handful of series he wrote deliberately for money rather than plausibility. He has high LA real estate and kid bills to pay, apparently.
The POD is space bat, as a result. I've read up on our civil war and there's no way it could've had THAT much effect, because DC had massive defenses and great train connections, so there's zero way it could've fallen as a result.
The rest is similarly only kinda-plausible. WWI is downright annoyingly wrong to me.
The POD is space bat, as a result. I've read up on our civil war and there's no way it could've had THAT much effect, because DC had massive defenses and great train connections, so there's zero way it could've fallen as a result.
The rest is similarly only kinda-plausible. WWI is downright annoyingly wrong to me.
mowque
Banned
Exactly, I mention that in my post. Lee even says he doesn't look forward to storming those forts...
Still wouldn't've won.
First, it would've been hard,maybe impossible to take, because it was defended, too, like every other big city atall vaguely closish to the front, and it was an era of the defensive advantage.
And Lincoln would've just ordered the Army of the Potomac and northern garrisons there.
Lincoln wasn't the kind of man to give into despair. ever.
I think the intervention of the British and French was what sealed the deal.
mowque
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I agree chaps, but as I stated in my first post...We've fought this battle many a time on AH.com. This isn't the place for it.
mowque
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Yet another character is introduced, McGregor a salt of the earth farmer in Canada. I’ve always liked Turtledove’s Canada (most of the time). As is shown in this segment is a much changed nation then the one we know.
For one thing, it is armed to the teeth. Conscription is common and enforced, and it is noted that the USA is what caused the change. Faced with a massive armed belligerent to the South, it is no surprise Canada has armed itself. It is done well and off to the side, and doesn’t hit the reader over the head with it. Also, the general militaristic feel is present, as McGregor notes a few times memories or concepts from his ‘Army days’ which would have been rare indeed for a Canadian in OTL in 1914!
Another concept is the rampant Anti-Americanism has caused a weakening of anti-French (or Quebecois) feeling and a more powerful connection to the UK. Knowing that the USA could come barreling over the border at any time Canada is dependent more than ever on the UK. However, as McGregor says, England will be busy with the war in Europe.
I’m not crazy about the character himself, but he set up well here. I was a farmer in a past life and Harry hits all the clichés and stereotypes pretty hard here. Hard worker, weathered look, close connection to the land and his sense. He is a patriotic man, but not a foolish one (He hides his rifle when the American come knocking). The segment ends with his house shot up, but still standing, under American control.
For one thing, it is armed to the teeth. Conscription is common and enforced, and it is noted that the USA is what caused the change. Faced with a massive armed belligerent to the South, it is no surprise Canada has armed itself. It is done well and off to the side, and doesn’t hit the reader over the head with it. Also, the general militaristic feel is present, as McGregor notes a few times memories or concepts from his ‘Army days’ which would have been rare indeed for a Canadian in OTL in 1914!
Another concept is the rampant Anti-Americanism has caused a weakening of anti-French (or Quebecois) feeling and a more powerful connection to the UK. Knowing that the USA could come barreling over the border at any time Canada is dependent more than ever on the UK. However, as McGregor says, England will be busy with the war in Europe.
I’m not crazy about the character himself, but he set up well here. I was a farmer in a past life and Harry hits all the clichés and stereotypes pretty hard here. Hard worker, weathered look, close connection to the land and his sense. He is a patriotic man, but not a foolish one (He hides his rifle when the American come knocking). The segment ends with his house shot up, but still standing, under American control.
This is pretty neat. So far your analyses are pretty spot on and close to my own thoughts on the series; but I admit to never really thought about Canada all too much. I think I need to go back and read through the series a but more closely...thanks for providing the motivation.
What? Do you mean his moral character? As in, he has a lot of character?
Wolfpaw
Banned
But it is incredibly important to any rounded character, especially dictators whose very job brings with it a national, unquestioning reservoir of poon. And while it may be "refreshing" to encounter a sexless humanoid in that it spares you HT's sex scenes and Jake howling, "Freedom!" as he cums, the historical truth is that political pricks and generals' genitalia can have historic consequences, especially if it's a dictatorial dick.
Okay, what about all of the other times, like when he was Boss? When the Baptists had nothing on the Party in terms of clout or power? We had leading (indeed founding) Klansmen who drank, gambled, whored and collected pornography IOTL. You're telling me that the American Hitler--with all his media and police dominance--can't find time to shuck a little side corn? Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Huey Long, FDR, LBJ; they all had cocks; where is Featherston's?
I agree chaps, but as I stated in my first post...We've fought this battle many a time on AH.com. This isn't the place for it.
Chaps? I didn't think you were British.
To be clear, I wasn't really arguing with jkay but rather explaining HT's reasoning. I have no particular opinion on the plausibility of the CSA's victory.
Wolfpaw
Banned
Yeah, but he wasn't. Eva wasn't his first mistress, he mentioned her (though not by name) in his final testament and they died husband and wife. And people often do not realize that Hitler was a sex symbol in the Third Reich thanks to both propaganda and fascism's general cultishness.
Also, Eva was pretty much just a young mistress, and that's it. Lulu was a cobwebbed secretary that Featherston has a bit of affection for. This guy is on a 10 book dry spell; you don't find this strange?
He did say that the deference shown him by Party regulars and hospitality workers made him feel good, as whores did. I don't think that's something he'd say idly.
But I agree on the Lulu Mattox != Eva Braun thing.