Mourning in America

Regarding the Dean Scream: doesn't bother me. When you've listened to the hours of audio recordings by Maurice Duplessis (en Francais, bien sur ;)) and Bobby Kennedy as I have, you become jaded on these questions. :p
 
The Dean Scream was out of context. Did he scream like we heard, sure. But the difference that no one talks about is that the crowd was so loud, he had to scream to speak over them and compared to them was reasonable. Its just that the type of microphone they used to record that incident ommited the audience noises.
 
What's with Incumbent Vice President's not running for the nomination, I know Vice President Richards would be Seventy for most of the campaign, I don't think she started to show signs of her fatal esophagael cancer till maybe sometime late in '05 or early '06. So I think she would probably still run, if anything to become the 1st Female candidate on either side to run for the Presidency with a legitmate chance at winning. So im obvioulsy throwing my support behind my girl...

Vice President Dorthy Ann W. Richards (D-TX)
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“Despite pleas from many of her supporters, Vice President Ann Richards declined to seek the Democratic presidential nomination in a press conference on Feb. 27, 2003. She felt “bone-tired” after six years as Vice President, due to the vast domestic responsibilities she had been assigned by the White House. As Chairman of the President’s Commission on Civil Rights, Richards had negotiated the tricky territory of affirmative-action bills and various feminist lobby groups. She was known to have an excellent working relationship with the President, despite “being young enough to be my son”, as Richards would occasionally quip. Kennedy himself preferred Evan Bayh as his successor, saying that we’re “cut from the same political cloth”, and offered Bayh his private endorsement two days after Bayh’s declaration of candidacy. The President considered Dean a “loudmouthed red-hot liberal” and Kerry “too weak, too liberal and not tough enough” for the White House.”

“During the winter and spring of 2003 there were no noteworthy events on either the foreign or domestic scenes. All attention was focused on the presidential race. Dean and Brown led the polls and fundraising throughout that period, despite the new campaign finance laws. In Canada, Kim Campbell had retired after twelve years in power, and after a short Mackay interlude Frank McKenna became Prime Minister. I had been impressed at how the Tories had retained power for nearly 19 years, the longest in their party’s history. Shortly thereafter Rajiv told me that he would be stepping down by the end of that year, and he announced it on July 9th of that year, to take effect on the 30th. We met for a final time at the White House on July 16th, where I awarded him, as I had Kim Campbell in November 2002, the Presidential Medal of Freedom after their valedictory addresses to Congress. When my successor took office, there would be new leaders on the international scene.”
- Former President Robert Kennedy interviewed, 2008

Canadian federal election, Apr. 7, 2003
308 Commons seats
Liberal: 167 seats
Progressive Conservative: 124 seats
NDP: 17 seats
Incumbent Prime Minister: Peter Mackay (PC)
Prime Minister-designate: Frank McKenna (Lib)

“Janet, what’s this about Martha Stewart? Some lawyers in the Criminal Division think that there’s sufficient evidence to charge her with insider trading. I disagree.” “I concur, having looked at their reasoning. To be honest, a second-year law student could do better than that, and you can tell them that from me.” “I’ll rephrase that slightly Mr. President.”
- President Kennedy to Attorney General Reno, Sept. 29


THE WHITE HOUSE


11/8/03


ATTN: DNC CHMN TERRY MCAULIFFE


RE: FUNDRAISING


“Terry,
Please tell our majors that I am backing Senator Bayh for the nomination. If he is not nominated, we might as well concede as soon as the GOP picks their nominee. They should donate to the others, but most of the money should go to Evan in my opinion. As you know, this is strictly between the two of us. Rahm is the only other person who’s fully informed on the subject.”
The President

“2004 opened with surprises in both parties: Scott Brown and Howard Dean both won Iowa. In New Hampshire, Santorum eked out a narrow victory, while Evan Bayh easily won the Democratic primary with 56% of the vote. The first major test came on Mini-Tuesday, where Bayh and Dean were essentially tied. On Feb. 23, John Kerry withdrew from the race, after failing to win a single primary. For the Republicans, Brown and Santorum continued to be virtually tied in the delegate count. As President Robert Kennedy privately predicted, Super Tuesday would be “the Republican Gettysburg. Whoever wins this will be their nominee, though the loser will fight tooth and nail to the last.”

Super Tuesday, Mar. 2 (R)
California
Sen. Scott Brown: 57.3%
Sen. Rick Santorum: 42.5%

Connecticut
Sen. Scott Brown: 61.1%
Sen. Rick Santorum: 38.7%

Georgia
Sen. Rick Santorum: 54.3%
Sen. Scott Brown: 45.6%

Maryland
Sen. Scott Brown: 50.5%
Sen. Rick Santorum: 49.5%

Massachusetts
Sen. Scott Brown: 68.4%
Sen. Rick Santorum: 30.7%

Minnesota
Sen. Scott Brown: 60.2%
Sen. Rick Santorum: 39.7%

“After winning most of the following primaries, Scott Brown and Howard Dean became their respective parties’ presumptive nominees in June. An infuriated President Robert Kennedy met with Dean on June 5th at the White House and endorsed Dean, but few saw the President’s gesture as sincere. Some Democrats thought that the President would not go all-out for the Democratic ticket in November, but Kennedy committed to “campaigning as my busy schedule will allow.” At the Democratic National Convention in Boston on July 27th, Dean selected Washington Senator Patty Murray as his running mate, and promised “to continue the policies pursued by the President over these past eight years”. Kennedy was heard by several journalists to mutter “bullshit” under his breath, though this was little-reported.”

“At the Republican National Convention in Chicago on Aug. 5, Brown chose Missouri Senator Kit Bond as his running mate. Media reports described the RNC as “full of enthusiasm for the ticket, joy and high levels of partisanship” in contrast to the “fake” atmosphere of the Democrats’ reunion in Boston the previous week.”

“Personally, I wouldn’t shed a tear if Scott succeeds me on January 20. We’ve known each other for years, and we were close in the Senate. Though no one can say it, I’m feeling about Scott as LBJ felt about Rocky vis-à-vis Dad in ’68.”
- RFK Diaries, Oct. 10

U.S. presidential election, Nov.2
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(R) Scott P. Brown/ Christopher S. Bond: 300 EV, 52.7%
(D) Howard B. Dean/ Patricia L. Murray: 238 EV, 46.3%

Incumbent President: Robert Kennedy Jr. (D)
President-elect: Scott Brown (R)

Congressional-House
Republican: 240 seats (+19)
Democratic: 195 seats
Incumbent Speaker: Newt Gingrich (R-GA)

Congressional-Senate
Republican: 58 seats (+4)
Democratic: 42 seats
Incumbent Majority Leader: Trent Lott (R-MS)

“You’re now really Downtown Scotty Brown.”
- President Robert Kennedy to President-elect Scott Brown, 11:50 AM, Jan. 20, 2005

Jan. 20, 2005: “I, Scott Philip Brown, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, so help me God.”

Brown Cabinet
Vice President: Kit Bond

Secretary of the Treasury: Henry Paulson
Secretary of State: Condoleezza Rice
Attorney General: Arlen Specter
Secretary of Defence: John McCain

"The shot heard around the world rebounded on March 30th, 1981."
 
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Appendix A: Presidents of the United States

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): Mar. 30, 1981- Jan. 20, 1989

U.S. Congressman, TX-5: Jan. 3, 1967- Jan. 3, 1971
U.S. Ambassador to the UN: 1971-1973
Chairman, Republican National Committee: 1973-1974
Director of Central Intelligence: Jan. 30, 1976- Jan. 20, 1977
Vice President of the United States: Jan. 20- Mar. 30, 1981

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42: Robert W. "Bob" Kasten (R-WI): Jan. 20, 1989- Jan. 20, 1997

U.S. Congressman, WI-5: Jan. 3, 1975- Jan. 3, 1981
U.S. Senator from Wisconsin: Jan. 3, 1981- Dec. 22, 1984
Vice President of the United States: Jan. 20, 1985- Jan. 20, 1989

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43: Robert F. "Bobby" Kennedy Jr. (D-NY): Jan. 20, 1997-Jan. 20, 2005

U.S. Representative, NY-6: Jan. 3, 1985- Oct. 22, 1988
U.S. Senator from New York: Oct. 22, 1988- Dec. 23, 1996
U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom: July 4, 2009-present

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44: Scott P. Brown (R-MA): Jan. 20, 2005-present
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U.S. Representative, MA-10: Jan. 3, 1989- Jan. 3, 1995
U.S. Senator from Massachusetts: Jan. 3, 1995- Dec. 21, 2004

Appendix B: Vice Presidents of the United States

Vacant: Mar. 30- May 6, 1981
Richard G. "Dick" Lugar (R-IN): May 6, 1981- Jan. 20, 1985
Robert W. "Bob" Kasten (R-WI): Jan. 20, 1985- Jan. 20, 1989
Jack F. Kemp (R-NY): Jan. 20, 1989- Jan. 20, 1997
Ann W. Richards (D-TX): Jan. 20, 1997- Jan. 20, 2005
Christopher S. "Kit" Bond (R-MO): Jan. 20, 2005-present


Appendix C: Defeated tickets


1984: Gary W. Hart (D-CO)/Ernest F. "Fritz" Hollings (D-SC)
1988: Edward M. "Ted" Kennedy/William J. "Bill" Clinton (D-AR)
1992: Paul E. Tsongas (D-MA)/Albert A. "Al" Gore Jr. (D-TN)
1996: John S. McCain (R-AZ)/Peter B. "Pete" Wilson (R-CA)
2000: John E. "Jeb" Bush (R-FL)/W. Mitt Romney (R-MA)
2004: Howard Dean (D-VT)/Patricia B. "Patty" Murray (D-WA)

Appendix D: British Prime Ministers

Margaret Thatcher (Tory): 4 May 1979- 28 November 1990
John Major (Tory): 28 November 1990- 8 April 1995
John Redwood (Tory): 8 April 1995- 4 March 1997
Tony Blair (Lab): 4 March 1997-present

Appendix E: Canadian Prime Ministers

Kim Campbell (PC): Sept. 17, 1991- Nov. 9, 2002
Peter Mackay (PC): Nov. 9, 2002- Apr. 17, 2003
Frank McKenna (Lib): Apr. 17, 2003- present
 
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Yes, that's the end, with Scott Brown's inauguration as the 44th POTUS. If nothing else, I've done the first POTUS Brown TL. :D

My next TL won't start until mid-May, but I promise it to be as dramatic as MiA was. Having learnt a few lessons from fellow Board specialists in my specialty...
 
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Any scenario in which Pete Wilson goes down to defeat is A-OK with me. I already had to deal with him as my mayor AND my governor.
 
Well done. :) I loved the bit where President Brown appoints his predecessor as Ambassador to the Court of St. James. Must be making a few Unionists squirm.

I could swear I saw RFK Jr writhing as he smiled with complete falsity while shaking Gov. Dean's hand and thinking to himself "Goddamned pinko liberals, what's my Democratic Party coming to?" at the '04 convention. :D

Thirty years of unbroken moderate-conservative governance - this is a TL I would have liked to have lived in. Too bad about the Gipper, but things seem to have worked out OK. ;)
 
Oh, they were armed. In French we call their weapons "bons mots." ;) Normally RFK would sneer at someone who pissed him off, along with that rather intense glare of his. You don't see that in the photo, because it's in public.

There are accounts of LBJ putting his arm around RFK during the '64 campaign and saying "this is ma boy, I want ya to elect my boy." Lyndon is 6"4, Bobby is 5"10, and he is young enough to be LBJ's son, so you can just imagine the aesthetics there. As the author so memorably wrote, "you could see the white on Bobby's knuckles." :D
 
Oh, they were armed. In French we call their weapons "bons mots." ;) Normally RFK would sneer at someone who pissed him off, along with that rather intense glare of his. You don't see that in the photo, because it's in public.

There are accounts of LBJ putting his arm around RFK during the '64 campaign and saying "this is ma boy, I want ya to elect my boy." Lyndon is 6"4, Bobby is 5"10, and he is young enough to be LBJ's son, so you can just imagine the aesthetics there. As the author so memorably wrote, "you could see the white on Bobby's knuckles." :D

Oh, good God. My compliments to RFK, wherever he is in the hereafter, for not punching LBJ in the gonads for such an insult. :D
 
Cool TL.

Just curious how Chretien beat out Turner for the leadership in '84?

Also, how did Kim Campbell beat off Western alienation and the Reformers, and the Quebec sovereigntists? I see no reference to the Reform, Alliance or BQ in your TL, so I'm curious how Kim kept it together against the trouble making of Preston Manning and Reform to the west, and Lucy in Quebec. What became of Stephen Harper and the grand plan this time around?
 
Oops, I forgot to mention that Meech passed. :eek: Thus there was no Reform or BQ, and the PQ was also quite weak ITTL. Mulroney said in his memoirs that if Meech had passed, he'd have retired in the fall of '91.
 
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