"Mound of spring: An early developing Israel in a late developing world TL"

yboxman

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Post #11 Grim as a famished wounded wolf

Having read a bit more about Gallipoli and Gorlice Tarnow and having considered the preference of the audience I have come to the following conclusions:
1. G-Tarnow is likely to take place as planned (rather than an early strike Vs Serbia) simply due to the momentum of military planning. It was the result of such a bitter factional fight between the "Easterners" and "Westerners" in OKH that changing course at the 11th hour (The Cilician operation starts around March 5th, a bit under two months before G.Tarnow) seems unlikely.
2. A Cilician operation in March 1915 probably obviates the Naval attempt at the Dardanelles in march 18th 1915. Earlier naval attempts take place as OTL, but without a substantial army support in reserve to occupy Gallipoli and Constantinopole it seems even more nuts than OTL to try to force the straits by naval power alone.
3. What flows from #2 is that Venizelos government never falls to begin with. OTL, the trigger for that was the Russian Veto on any Greek participation in Gallipoli (since they didn’t want king Constantine in Constantinopole) and Venizelos's willingness to sign away Western Thrace to Bulgaria in return for promises of gains in Asia minor and boots on the Ground in Gallipoli. Both together basically pulled the political rug out from under V-Zs feet. TTL, the British are not aiming for a Gallipoli landing in March. The British still try to woo the Greeks into joining the war but they aim at persuading them into landing in Izmir/Smyrna in order to divert Ottoman forces from reinforcing Adana (And the Dardanelles, should that become pertinent in the future). Venizelos manages to pull Greece into the war by April 20th, but only against the OE, not Germany or Austria-Hungary. Supplies freely flow into Serbia Via Saloniki however. The 3.5 divisions (Half the Greek army. The rest is busy guarding the Bulgarian border) the Hellas army land mange to take the Chiron peninsula But are Bottled up by the ottomans by May 1st.
4. Unfortunately, while getting out of the war now and relying on Anglo-French gurantees to prevent a post war carve-up may be in the best interests of the OE, The entry of Greece into the war, make that more difficult. Also, I've come to the conclusion that the CUP, in spite of the defeats inflicted on the OE, is unlikely to be overthrown absent a direct threat to Istanbul. Like the Bolsheviks, they had managed to establish a semi-totalitarian apparatus in the OEs centers of power and purged anyone likely to overthrow them pre WWI. Likewise, the only power within the CUP which seems likely to displace Enver is Tlaat- and from all I could read about him he seems to be unlikely to be the author of either an all-out confortation with him or a change of course placing the future survival of the OE in Entente hands.


There falls a perpetual snow on a broken plain,
And though the twilight filled with flakes the white earth joins the sky.
Grim as a famished wounded wolf, his lean neck in a chain,
The Turk stands up to die




April 28th, 1915

People
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Josef_Ferdinand,_Prince_of_Tuscany
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Conrad_von_Hötzendorf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_von_Mackensen


General Mackensen was a proper Prussian gentleman. At the moment, however, his blistering curses would do a Silesian Hog farmer credit.

"You were the ones who pushed for this offensive! And now, the moment I have brought a dozen of Germany's finest divisions to shore up your own front, half of your own troops are withdrawn? Must I face 20 Russian divisions with but four Austrian divisions? Scoundrel!"

The Austrian chief of staff stiffens. It is clear that Germany is the senior partner in the alliance, but he nonetheless holds higher rank than this Prussian relic and he refuses to be addressed in this manner.

"We did not expect to be stabbed in the back by our supposed allies. Our valiant men are facing an Assault by Italians three times their number! Would you have us abandon Trieste and Vienna?"

"Had you been wise you would have given the Itallians Trieste in return for their support- then, we would have been in the streets of Paris and St Petersburg rather than planning to retake Lvov! As it is the Itallian army had barely made it across the Isonozo (1). Let them bang their heads against the Alps for as long as they please- you can hold back their armies with mere divisions. We finally have a concentration of power sufficient to envelop the Russian army- let us make use of it!"

Conrad grits his teeth. What makes this galling is that this is, in fact, the course he himself had advocated to the emperor. That does not stop him from the using the Emperor's own arguments against the Prussian.

"There are internal political issues stemming from the Italian invasion which must be taken into consideration (2) as well. Not to mention the danger that the Rumanians might seek to emulate their Latin kin. Already, the Greeks had followed suit"

"Only against the Ottomans! And if we strike swiftly and surely against the Russians then surely our Kaiser's imperial cousin in Romania (3) will reconsider their proper allegiances and interests (4). We MUST strike before the old man of Europe breaths out his last breath and allows the British to replenish the Russian arsenal (5)!"

Conrad sighs.

"And we will- but we will have to use what we have. I have managed to convince the emperor to keep most of the Artillery reserve in place at least. How long will this delay your plans?"

Mackensen carries out a swift calculation in his head. Even at his advanced age timetables and tables of organization are a second nature to him. "A week. Perhaps two. I will try to implore OKH for additional forces- but we dare not wait any longer. More than that and the Russians might catch their breath".


Istanbul, May 1st, 1915
People

Henry Morgenthau
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Morgenthau,_Sr.

American-Jewish ambassador to the Ottomans (the Jewish part is not incidential- President Wilson in an his odd pro Jewish brand of anti-semitism viewed him as a natural choice as he was "closer to the asiatic type" and could act as a bridge towards them)

Tlaat Pasha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talaat_Pasha

Party boss of the CUP, interior minister and executioner, if not initiator, of the Armenian/Assyrian/Greek Genocide and de-facto civilian ruler of the OE during most of the war.


Tlaat Pasha's laugh seemed forced, considered Henry Morgenthau. It was odd. Before the war he had begun to consider the jovial Tlaat a friend, and had thought that the feeling was repricophial.

That was Before, of course. Before the arrests, before the deportations, before the massacres and rumors of far, far worse reaching him from the Ottoman interior. Horror had descended upon the Armenian, Greek and Jewish communities of Anatolia, as Muslim refugees from Cilicia, East Anatolia and the Aegean coast spread throughout the land. Ordinary Turks, weary after a century of defeat and expulsion, fearful of the gathering force at the mouth of the Dardanelles, and assured by their leaders that their enemies meant to place their Christian and Jewish neighbors over them (6) had unleashed all of their fear of anhaliation upon their Jewish and Christian neighbors. Morgenthau had read his history of the Russo-Turkish wars and the Greek war of independence. He had heard first hand accounts of the Balkan war. He knew this was nothing new, and should not be expected.

What was new were the rumors he was hearing of a shadowy, CUP agency dedicated exclusively to ensure that however reduced Turkey might be in territory when the war was over it would contain no minorities whatsoever (7). A chill passed over his spine as he realized that if such a committee exists, then this man surely knew and approved of it.

"You cannot expect me to allow Jewish men to cross the Bulgarian border. We made that mistake last year- and look what happened! The ungrateful curs became hounds in the hands of their British masters and turned upon us. Even, now they ravage the Haram-Al-Sharif, where our prophet ascended to heaven (8). I assure you, no harm will come to those of our citizens whom we are resettling in the Interior (9) or those who are drafted to the labor Battalions (10). "

"What about the women? The children? Surely they are no threat to you?"

Tlaat spreads his hands.

"Who would be willing to support them? Who will pay for their passage? And why should wives and children wish to desert their husbands and their homes? (11)."

"The British have assured me that any Jewish resident of the Ottoman empire, foreign national or otherwise, will be well received if he wishes, of his own free will, to leave the empire. The same holds for the Assyrians, Mandeans and Yezidis. The French will take in any Maronites and Mallachites, and the Italians any Orthodox and Armenians (10)"

Tlaat grunts. Morgenthau wishes he could believe that some residual conscience or sense of friendship moved him. In truth, he suspects Tlaat is simply considering how great of a burden the expelled women and children will be on the Entente… and how much he himself stands to gain by looting their properties in the confusion of the exodus.

Finally, Tlaat nods. "Very well. Any who wish to may leave- so long as they renounce any right to return or to the property they leave behind. Their husbands will be permitted to join them when the war is over (12)"

As Morgenthau turns to leave Tlaats mocking voice freezes him in his tracks.

"Tell me, would you go to so much effort if the Jews had remained loyal and the Armenians were the only ones to Rebel?"

Without turning Morgentahu replies.

"I pray to God I would!"


Ruins of Troy, Ottoman Empire, May 20th 2300, 1915
Liman Sanders is tired of arguing with Enver Pasha. He is tired of the attempt of the military ignoramous to dictate critical decisions on the basis of what appears to be no more than fantastic, wishful thinking. It is precisely that madness which nearly decapitated the main Ottoman forces in the caucaus. What the Russian had failed to do, Enver, with some help from the weather, had succeeded.

Had he not so weakened the Ottoman forces then his attempt to repulse the British at Adana might have succeeded, or at least kept the British occupied in that Malarial swamp throughout the summer.

Instead, he had wrecked the carefully husbanded reserves of the Turkish military Von Sanders had so painfully reconstructed in a counterattack against a superior force- and then further bled his force dry by jousting with the Greeks in Izmir. Not only that, he dared to boast of his "victory". What manner of victory left the enemy entrenched on your soil? What manner of victory tied up your meager transportation in deporting mostly harmless Greek peaseants to… well, Von Sanders preferred not to think of where the Greeks were being sent to. The Americans, at least, had been willing and permitted to pick up those Greek women and children left unmolested by the Reich's "Allies".

Now, the battle hardened British reserves pinned up in Cilicia had been released by their Italian replacements. Those same Italians we sallying out of Rhodes, threatening a landing in Anatalya for which not Even Enver dared suggest they had troops to defend. And the British? The British were gathering at Lemnos. Where would they strike? The defenses of the Dardanelles and Gallipoli were immeasurably stronger than two months ago, though the divisions guarding them were sadly depleted by the demands of the Cilician and Izmir front. The British would never be so foolish as to land there (13). No, they would land here, in troy. It was the Asian side of the narrows which was, contrary to intuition the most vulnerable to landings. Capture, troy, advance up Marmara coast, destroy the minefields and cut his European forces from Resupply (14). As an added bonus, the Izmir front forces would be cut off from reinforcements.

Well, he would not play their game. He had eight divisions at his disposal in the Straits (15). One was keeping order in the capital. Two were in Edirne, deterring the Bulgarians from choosing the wrong side. If need be one could be rushed further south to Gallipoli.

Three of his divisions were here, in Asia, to eliminate any possibility of the British taking Troy. One of his divisions was keeping guard over the neck of the peninsula, to ensure that no attempt would be made to cut off his forces

All he needed to do was hold one for four more months. If he could do that, his instructions assured him, Russia's humiliation, begun a week ago, would be complete. With the Eastern front secure, Serbia would be crushed, spurring Bulgaria to enter the war on the correct side. Once it did, his shortage of munitions and men would be at end and any Entente attempt to take the straits futile. Let them waste their men and treasure in the Deserts of Arabia and the Mountains of Anatolia- so long as Germany held the straits, it's purpose was served.

Enver is at him again. He insists that the British will land at Izmir to reinforce the Greeks and aid them in despoiling the Turkish nation. He is insisting Sanders release a division to help him finish off the Greeks before the British land. But Enver no longer holds absolute power in Istanbul and Sanders has powerful backers. Their argument begins to heat up when a messenger rushes into Sander's headquarters.

Coast off Goba Tepe, Western Gallipoli , May 21st 0030, 1915
General Birdwood paces the decks of the freighter, impressed by the eerie calm of his troops. When he remarks on the oddity to a captain, the antipodean, Shea O'Conner by name, shrugs.

"Well, the thing is sir, we've done this before. Myself, I took a bullet at Jaffe, had another crack at it in Mersin, and just when I was recovering from a bout of Malaria under the tender care of a pretty bird in Cyprus what do they do? Well, Blimey if they don't land me in Sidon to help the Hebes keep the Frogs out of Palestine. I've seen the Abduls and they're nothing to get excited about. The important thing is to keep your nerve, advance into the fire and dig in. Do that and things will sort themselves out. (16)"

With men like these, Birdwood muses, how could he fail?

Sedd el Baher, May 21st 0500
Admiral Robeck is uneasy. He is new to his command and has had only ten weeks to get used to his new found perspective (17)

It is the greatest Naval force ever assembled in the Meditaranian. 12 Battleships bristling with guns heavier than anything a lad based battery can hold. Nearly five dozen destroyers to act as mine sweepers (18). They are not the best of the fleet of course. Most are obsolete and would not last two minutes in a line of battle against the German navy. But he also has half a dozen of the new-fangled submarines as well as a wing of seaplanes to aid him (19) in spotting the Ottoman artillery. He had taken casualties in clearing the first lines of mines. But as far as Kephet point the way is clear.

His orders are unambiguous. He is, in support of the land forces assaulting the south and west of the peninsula, to force the narrows, whatever the casualties, and block any reinforcements landing from Asia.

Well, he will not shirk his responsibilities. "Do or Die, Paddy. Do or Die" he mutters under his breath before ordering his fleet into their battle lines.


Goba Tepe, Western Gallipoli , May 21st 1200, 1915

Colonel Halil Sami Bey maintains an Icy calm as he dictated his message.

"The enemy is landing his main force in Europe, not Asia, the West, not the East. I Repeat, I am nearly certain that Goba Tepe and Cape Hellas are the main landing points. Request permission to move the reserve regiments from Mudros to Goba Tebe at once. I require urgent reinforcements to my sector at one. Request confirmation. "

Silently, he curses the damn German. He had told him the British would land in his sector- but he lacked the authority to order the reserves to rush in to fill the breach. By the time (20) authorization would be given it might be too late, and the heights of Sari Bair captured.

Sofia, June 1st, 1915.

King Ferdinand paces the throne room. All about him great events are unfolding and he must make a difficult decision- and push it through his fractious cabinet. He may, after all, call himself Tsar, but he is well aware he does not hold the autarcic power of his namesake to the North. Time is wasting though, and he must make a decision.

To the North, the Russians are being pushed back to the Vistula and show no signs of ending their retreat. But nor do they show any sign of breaking. The Germans are assuring him that soon Serbia would be defeated and Macedonia would be his if only he joined before the issue was decided… but so far Serbia had repeatedly demonstrated the inadequacy of the Austrian forces.

To the south, the British had, with appaling casualties, destroyed or captured the Ottoman ninth division and now dominated the southern Gallipoli peninsula and the European side of the Crucial narrows. Maidos had fallen to them, although some Ottoman mines still lay in the Northern Dardanelles and Ottoman artilary on the Asian sure continued to wreck havoc on the minesweepers (21). Some of the British ships, as well as Submarines, had penetrated the Marmara, and were bombarding the Panicked Ottoman capital. The Goeben, instigator of the Ottoman entry into the war, is sunk, though not without a stiff fight.

To turn on the Entente, in spite of the rewards offered by the Germans seems foolhardy with the larger issue in such doubt. To remain neutral risks watching any potential gains eliminated. Declaring war on the Ottomans however, could be done without involving him in the larger war, would win him back Adrianopole, and might, if he acted swiftly enough, place his troops in Constantinopole, granting him a far better negotiating position Vs the Entente. Already they were offering him parts of Vardar Macedonia. If he held the Bosphorus how high might their offers rise? And after all it was clear that there was no risk attacking the Ottoman empire would lead to war with Germany- after all, they have failed to do so in the case of Greece.

His decision made, he calls his ministers and generals together to announce it.

Bosphorus, June 5th, 1915.


As the ferry to Bursa leaves the jetty Tlaat Pasha weeps. Behind him, the charges set beneath Hagia Sophia explode and the massive edifice crumbles and descends into the blazing inferno that is Istanbul.

In some sense it is a relief. Like many of the CUP leadership, like many of the "Turkish" nation he has dedicated his life to, Tlaat Pasha is a refugee, his former home now swallowed up by the Christian nations of the Balkans. For three Generations, Turks have grown used to losing wars and watching as the Christians forced Millions of Muslims to leave their homes and flee into Istanbul. Now, Istanbul is gone. Russia or Britian, Greece or Bulgaria, may win the race to it's ruins- but it would be a hollow victory.

As for the Turks, the true Turks, well, they were merely being forced back into their first conquests, into the Anatolian plateau. There they would make their last stand. They might be defeated, but they would never surrender- whatever the puppet Sultan the British planned on Installing in the ruins of Istanbul said.

Ankara, June 12th, 1915

"We were defeated by superior forces on the field of battle and we face now a choice. Do we place our necks beneath the heels of our conquerors? Do we open our women's legs to those who would defile hem? Do we place our fates in their hands? Do we dare, after all we have endured at the hands of the infidel over the past century?. That is one choice, the choice of shame and cowardinace. I offer you another choice. To Die on our feet. To fight, and keep on fighting. Not for victory. Not for survival.. No, I call on you to fight because it is better to die on our feet as men than to die on our knees as slaves to the Greeks and Armenians and Jews. Who is with me?!"

Enver Pasha, speech to the CUP central comittee and selected officers of the army of Anatolian resistance




(1) OTL, The Italian assault hit the spring floods, making the Isonozo a truly formidable barrier. They were also facing an Austria which had already crushed the main Russian armies. TTL, The Russian army has not yet been assaulted and the Isonozo remains fordable.
(2) Lobbying by Croats and German Tyrolese, both of whom overwhelmingly support the Hapsburgs and are overrepresented in the officer corps and in the court.
(3) A Hohenzollern got the throne of Romania in 1866 following Bismarkian horse trading with Russia.
(4) OTLs Gorlice Tarnow was aimed partly at keeping Italy and Romania out of the war by demonstrating CP supremacy in the East. They were too late for Italy but GT probably kept Romania out of the war for a year- and also convinced Bulgaria to join the war.
(5) Which the shell crisis, the overburdened state of the Russian railways and a variety of other factors will prevent the British from doing. At least in 1915. But the Germans don’t know that- OTL they were expecting an Ottoman collapse and dreaded the revival of the Russian steamroller.
(6) Which isn't very far from the truth, of course.
(7) Needless to say Tlaat is about as secular as they come. But this is about group identity, not theology.
(8) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_genocide. it starts earlier OTL as the Greek army advances on Izmir.
(9) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Battalions_(Ottoman_Empire). So much for the claim that the Armenian genocide was the unplanned result of genuine attempt at forcible resettlement of a ddisloyal population in the Interior.
(10) OTL, one reason the Armenian Genocide took place early, while the Greek Genocide was not so lethal was that Tsarist Russia did not want to take in useless mouths and tried to discourage their entry into the empire until 1917. The Greeks took in anyone who could make it out. Which resulted in massive starvation, especially given the national schism and the Bulgarian entry into the war.
(11) Notably absent are the Russians. And the Greeks- they do not wish to encourage de-hellenization of Asia minor.
(12) Why Is Tlaat being relatively accommodating? Because unlike the Nazis the CUP had a "Logical" reason to eliminate their minorities- they were a military threat. Women and children OTOH are a military burden. And while the CUP shares some similarities with European totalitarian parties they have not undergone quite the same anti-rational process of ideological radicalization their European counterparts did in the interwar years. Also, the Ottomans are more dependent on their allies and the Americans than WWII Germany was- they need to take their opinions into consideration.
(13) NEVER underestimate the foolishness of a British general.
(14) OTL. Sanders was absolutely convinced the British would land in Asia- he very nearly failed to reinforce Kemal against the ANAZAC landings due to his fear this was a diversion.
(15) Between troops lost in Adana, the Greek landings in Izmir and even worse luck Vs the Russians, the Straits are short a crucial three divisions.
(16) Having troops who are experienced in amphibious landings, and commanders who have some idea of what can go wrong in such a landing is a great aid. The Ottoman troops facing them do not benefit from the same experience as the troops who faced the landings in the Levant are in Syria or Cilicia. That said, Gallipoli is not Cilicia.
(17) OTL, he assumed command two weeks before the naval attempt on the Dardanelles. TTL, he has more time at the helm and has also overseen the Jaffe and Cilicia landings.
(18) OTL, the initial attempts to clear mines were stymied by the fact that the minesweepers were crewed by civilians who were risk averse. An earlier East-Med commitment TTL weeds them out by May.
(19) OTL, submarines arrived in force only after the landings took place and the naval option was abandoned. Sea planes proved useless in the march-April weather (Seas were too rough or not sufficiently windy to take off) and came into use only in May after the initial landings were contained.
(20) Mustafa Kemal also lacked the authority- but he decided asking for forgiveness was better than asking for permission. This, if you will, was the measure of his greatness. Not his tactical capabilities, which were remarkable but hardly unique, but the self-assurance of acting upon his convictions (which, it might be noted, were not always correct).
(21) They had a limited supply and production capability up to August OTL. So no, they can't just fill up the entire straits with naval mines.


 
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It was high in comparision to Britian- partly because of the demographics (many younger settlers with Male surplus population) and partly because of a Militia tradition established Vs the Maori. But high mobilization did not translate into a high number of actual fighting men for a number of reasons, partly political (wish of New Zealand troops to serve under their own officers- of which, of course, there was a shortage. Outrage at the outcome of Gallipoli and reluctance to place NZ troops on the front line following it), partly logistical (NZ is pretty far from the location of most fighting) and, IIRC partly due to the fact that many NZ troops were sent to garrison captured German colonies, Malaysia, HK, and even India, thereby freeing up experienced regular British army troops for service in Europe. These issues tended to be papered over in the national histories of NZ, Australasia, SA, and Canada.

By contrast the WWI British army at it's height consisted of 4 million men and 70, albeit understrength, divisions. Had the NZ army had a similliar ratio of men/divisions that would have made for 4.5 divisions or 3 full strength divisions.

a few other things to bear in mind:
a. The Ottoman army, even the second rate troops sent to the Mashriq, is a notch or five above the "armies" the Arab succecor states had. But fighting against it still uses up far less artillery shells and munitions than Gallipoli or the Western front did. Hence, a shorter logistical tail.
b. The campaign in Palestine/south Syria does not involve vast distances. And the New Society Industrial base in Suez, allows for some local supplies of materials (and is superior to anything the Ottomans have south of the tauros mountains). That makes for a shorter logistical tail.
c. Railways, railways and railways. Unlike OTL, up until the capture of Jerusalem, the Jewish Legion is operating along the route of a pre-existing standard gauge high quality double tracked rail-line. That requires some troops to guard the line of communication but far fewer than the vast manpower the British army rquired OTL to ferry supplies on camleback while extending the railway as they advanced.




Strictly speaking there are no civilians in the West European (or even South African/Rhodesian) sense. 90% of the male Sinai population arrived as the equivalent of enlisted men. Even those not mobilized into the Jewish legions are members of the Militzia and provide their own security. This is not Israel/Palestine in 1948- there are no nearby Arab communities requiring constant alert. The nearest thing to it are the South Sinai Bedouin, who are separated from the North Sinai plain by a de-facto cordon sanitare requiring relatively few troops to patrol. Internal security, given the influx of Egyptian laborers and the uncertain loyalty of the forcibly settled North Sinai will become an issue eventually... but not by June 1915. After the Ottomans are pushed over the border to Gaza in November 1914 the Civilian rear is mostly safe (and you will note I have the number of divisions fielded by the New Society increase from 2>3 after that date).

Egypt proper is, of course, in a state of some unrest as OTL. But security there, and on the Suez is provided by British, Indian and Puppet Egyptian forces. For obvious reasons, the Jewish legion does not participate in internal policing of the Egyptian population though it plays some role in policing the Suez canal.



Sounds like an interesting book. I've read other books about the Sinai campaign and was struck by the way the British found it so difficult to advance. It was pretty much a case of advancing oasisi by Oasis, building water stokcs through relay journeys and laying down tracks in their wake every step of the way. their operational envelope away from the railheads was really quite low.

TTLm of course, most of that does not apply. Since a good railway extends from Port-Said to Jaffe (and the Turks fail to wreck it during their retreat) and the Sweet Water Canal is effectively extended all the way to El-Arish, the Sinai is a highway, rather than a barrier.

Well it sort of makes sense I think. The British forces by WW1 had transitioned to the new modes of warfare but logistics (trucks!) hadn't caught up and thus had a much greater requirement for supplies but no easy way of doing this outside of rail + traditional cartage.
 

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Well it sort of makes sense I think. The British forces by WW1 had transitioned to the new modes of warfare but logistics (trucks!) hadn't caught up and thus had a much greater requirement for supplies but no easy way of doing this outside of rail + traditional cartage.

Yeah, that is the story of WWI, and one of the main reasons assaults had a habbit of petering off after an initial promising start. the new modes of warfare required a great deal of heavy equipment and allowed for mass armies whose logistics requirements congested roads.

It wasn't the machine gun which killed breakthroughs by local concentrations of superior forces- it was the inability to supply troops who had advanced a few miles sufficiently to overwhelm the second line of defense. That, and the lack of field radio which made coordinating the advanced elements impossible the moment they advanced beyond their starting positions, and the lack of air-borne radio which made real time artillery targeting impossible and a host of other technological improvements which were just around the corner.

WWI, unlike WWII, seems unavoidable given the trajectory of European culture. But if it had been delayed by even five years a decisive victory by one side or another may well have been possible.

Vs the Ottomans, sea power, qualitative advantages, artillery, and a potential manpower advantage should have been sufficient to knock them out before the Bulgarian entry on the CP side linked their manpower with the German industrial powerhouse if the right decisions had been made. TTL doesn;t have the optimal decisions at exactly the right time but I believe the changes are sufficient to effectively neuter the Ottomans and expel them from the Gulf, Levant and Europe.
 
Enjoy the update as usual, but two questions:

How would the Great Powers react when the war is over and dealing with Turkey over the destruction of Istanbul?

Wouldn't the Ottomans be to block some supplies going to Russia from the Asian side of the Straits?
 

yboxman

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Enjoy the update as usual, but two questions:

How would the Great Powers react when the war is over and dealing with Turkey over the destruction of Istanbul?

depends on who wins, who implodes (Russian revolution?), and who is in control in Turkey. The question might best be answered by considering how the allies reacted to OTLs Armenian genocide. They held the CUP leadership personally responsible and demanded their arrest and extradition. They intended to effectively split Turkey up into Italian, french and Greek colonies, and form a large Armenian state on the ruins of the OE, partly as a punitive measure. However, once it became clear that the Turks were capable and prepared to continue fighting the great powers decided justice for the armenians took a second seat to post war exhustion and Geopolitics (containing the Soviets and, in the British case, the French).

Hence the arrested CUP members were traded for a few British POWs and everyone pretended that Kemal's regime had nothing to do with the Armenian Genocide.

Wouldn't the Ottomans be to block some supplies going to Russia from the Asian side of the Straits?

In the Dardanelles not so much- they are sufficiently wide that holding the European side allows ships hugging the western coast to avoid Ottoman artillery in the East. But the Bosphorus is very narrow, so yes, so long as the Ottomans maintain a political will to carry on the fight AND the industrial capacity to produce new artillery shells then yes, Supplies to Russia/Russian exports remain interdicted, unless the Allies push the Ottomans out of the Asian side of the Bosphorus as well.

They have a limited time to do so- GT has been launched and if the OE, however attenuated, clings to the Asian Bosphorus, then the Austro-German Eastern offensive will probably end sooner than OTL as OKH decides to turn south in order to knock Serbia out, entice Bulgaria to the CP side, and force the entente to abandon any Asia minor expidition they might have.

Note, however, that the fall of Istanbul and Turkey in Europe effectively anhaliated five-six Ottoman divisions, destroyed most of the Shell manafacturing capacity of the OE, left the OE with no source of foreign supplies, and probably shook up CUP control of the army and empire. Between Cilicia, Palestine the casucas, Izmir and the Dardanelles, the OE has lost nearly 40% of it's active pre war formations in under six months and has 40% of the remainder mousetrapped in the Mashriq with little communication with the Anatolian heartland.
 
Very interesting. I'm a bit sad to see the "shards" series come to an end for now, but it was perhaps a bit too ambitious a project to keep running. This looks like it will have a whole lot of butterflies before long...

Bruce
 

yboxman

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[/U][/B]Apologies in Advance, this post is rather horrific (and the next one will be worse). Just to be absolutely clear, it should not be viewed in any way, shape or form as support, approval, condonation or fascination for what will be described. What it is, is a "shoe on the other foot" extrapolation of likely human consequences of ALL the (religious) minorities in the Ottoman Empire realizing their maximal practical national aims in the face of Ottoman-Muslim resistance.

Post #12: Sokirim

Bulgaria's invasion of the Ottoman empire, combined with the British naval control of Marmara and incursions into the Bosphorus, resulted in the effective destruction of Ottoman forces in Europe. While the British forces had suffered upwards of 50,000 casualties in the initial landings (1) and had inflicted far less casualties in return during that phase of operations, their control of the Sea of Marmara, combined with the Bulgarian invasion, had left Six Ottoman divisions had stranded in Europe.

A few evacuated over the Bosphorus before it became a deadly no man's land. Most, however, surrendered to Bulgarian or British forces. Liman Von Sanders attempted to mobilize Ottoman forces in Asia to Izmit, in order to maintain the interdiction of the Bosphorus. But with the Ottoman fleet and it's German additions destroyed or forced into the vulnerable Black sea, and with British troops in Gallipoli freed by the Ottoman collapse, their position became untenable. The June 18th landing by British forces in the south, and Russian forces in the North, Forced the Ottoman forces to withdraw to Brusa, where the Ottoman government had relocated, before they were encircled.

It was this final retreat which was the straw that broke the proverbial camal's back. With Istanbul lost and deliberately destroyed by Tlaat pasha, West Thrace overrun by Bulgaria, Izmit occupied by savage cossacks, Izmir ravaged by emboldned Greeks, The West Cilician and Anatalian coast occupied by Italian forces, And the Russians, aided by savage Armenian auxilaries, pushing ever Westward towards Sivas, Mohammedan refugees were streaming into Brusa and the Anatolian interior as they had continually done for the past three generations. This time, however, the flow of refugees was far greater, and the ability of the Empire to provide for them far smaller.

The various elements in the Ottoman military, officialdom and CUP party structure uneasy with the course adopted by Enver and Tlaat and German domination of the Ottoman empire coalensced around the person of Mehmed IV as a symbol of Ottoman unity. The second countercoup in Brusa captured and executed Tlaat Pasha and Sanders, and forced Enver Pasha to flee to Angora, where loyal army officers offered him refuge.

The countercoup leaders immediately approached Britain with a request for an armistice and permanent peace. Some, no doubt had hoped for a statues quo Ante peace hoping against hope that the influence of Britian and it's interest in maintaining the Ottoman empire as a buffer against Russian expansion would preserve the empire from utter calamity. Most of the plotters were more realistic. But even they were horrified by the Terms the allies presented.

Terms of the armistice of Brusa June 28th, 1915

a. The Bosphorus and the Dardanelles, including the vilaytes of Izmid (1) and Bigha (2) were alienated from the ottoman empire "for all time" pending negotiations between the allies regarding their definitive distribution.

b. The East Marmara shore, including the new capital of Brusa, was to be utterly demilitarized with the exception of a 30,000 strong Gendarme.

c. Cilicia was to be transferred to Italy (3).

d. Antioch, Mt Lebanon, Latakia and Beirut were to be transferred to the rule of France (4).

e. The "Kingdom of Jerusalem" including not only all lands South of the Alawi river And East of the Jordan (5), but also a wide swath of land east of this up to the Hejazan railway (6) was to be constituted under British protection.

f. Chaldea, compromising the portion of the Basra Vilayet lying south of Amara and El-Kut, as well as Al-Hassa and Qatif was to be constituted as a crown colony under direct British rule.

g. The independence of Yemen, including Asir, was recognized under British protection (7).

h. The right of Italy to maintain garrisons in the ports of the Anatalyan coast, as well as intervene to "protect public order" was recognized.

i. The Sanjaks of Izmir and Aidin in the Aidin vilayet to be transferred to Greek rule (8).

j. The Vilayets, of Van, Erzerum, and Trebizond were to be transferred to Russian rule (9) and it's right to intervene in Sivas north of the Tauros range to "maintain public order" (10) recognized.

k. All non-Muslim troops in the Ottoman army were to be immediately released from service and were to be exempted from any future draft, corvee labor, special taxes, and expropiations.

l. As the Sublime porte had shown itself incapable of maintaining the safety and freedom of it's non-Muslim subjects, all such subjects were to be given the option of resettlements within the territories of the allies who might admit them at their particular discretion (11). Similliar assistance will be given to resettle Muslim subjects of the Porte in the Areas remaining under their rule (12).

m. All Allied prisoners of war to be immediately released. Ottoman prisoners of war would be released within a year or at the end of hostilities in Europe.

n. All German nationals to be expelled from the territories of the Sublime Porte.

o. Ottoman army to be demobilized and hand over all stocks of artillery and machine guns beyond a number to be determined by the allies as necessary to maintain public order.

The Armistice was very nearly rejected by the Brusa government. It took a naval demonstration in front of Brusa, and the landing of additional Anglo-French troops in Izmir, to convince the court of Mehmet IV that no choice truly existed but to comply with the Allied demands. As the massive population movements, spurred by atrocities on both sides, began, news of decisive German victories in Poland, enabled Enver Pasha to once again rise from the ashes and establish a rival government in Angora. the Austro-German assault on Serbia resulted in most allied troops being diverted to the Saloniki front, further emboldening the rejectionist elements of Turkish society. By August 1915 the brief peace accord in the Near East had come to an end. The Turkish civil war, and all the horrors it had since spawned, had begun.

Winston Churchill, the world crisis


Bulgaria's entry into the war presented both the Entente and the Central powers with a conundrum. The Central Powers, while outraged at Bulgaria's intervention, had largely written the Ottoman Empire off their calculations by June and had no wish to add Bulgaria's relatively large and well motivated army to their growing list of enemies. Indeed, some still hoped to entice Bulgaria into the war on the side of the Teutonic powers and viewed Bulgaria as a far more reliable custodian of the crucial Bosphorus than the decrepit Ottoman Empire. Thus, Germany and Austro Hungary swallowed their outrage and maintained strictly correct relations with Sophia, just as they attempted, to a lesser degree of success, to do with Athens.

The Entente's position proved more complex. Russia, who had gained a great reprieve from Bulgaria's entry into the war was paradoxically most uneasy with it and outraged by Ferdinand's occupation of the ruins of Istanbul. It demanded it's immediate evacuation and for Russian troops to replace Bulgarian, and for good measure Anglo-Greek forces in the entire straits area. The ongoing retreat of the Russian army in the face of the Austro-german offensive made those demands rather lukewarm as did the British attitude, which viewed Bulgarian control of "tsargard" and the bosphorus as far preferable to that of Russia. In the end, a provisional agreement was reached according to which Bulgaria would evacuate Constantinopole at the conclusion of the war, and that such evacuation would be dependent on Greek cession of portions of Western Thrace and Serbia of portions of Vardar Macedonia.

Bulgaria, having gained land, prestige, and a valuable bargaining card, settled in to digest it's conquests, expel ethnic Turks from Eastern Thrace, and rebuild and consolidate control of Constantinopole. This did not prevent it, however, from casting a covetous gaze towards it's Western neighbor. As The Austro-German offensive took Belgrade, many voices in Sofia called for Bulgaria to hitch their cart to the teutonic powers.

The Balkans 1804-1999: Nationalism And Empires By Misha Glenny


Enver Pasha had led the Ottoman Empire to defeat following defeat between 1911-1915. How then, can one explain his appeal in that wild, burning summer? How can one explain how he was able to convince the remmenants of the 11th army, which he himself had led to disaster, to support his bid for power?

More was at work here than a rational analysis of the prospects for entente defeat. Poland and Serbia played little role in the thoughts and imagination of the Turkish nation. Rather, it was outrage, humiliation and the conviction that the terms enforced on the prostate Turkish nation at Brusa were a prelude to national extinction that moved Enver's supporters. By October, the Sultan's government was all but overthrown, having received little aid from the Entente, hard pressed as it was in the life and death struggle in Central Serbia. It was at this point that Greece intervened, fully uniting the Turkish nation around Enver Pasha.

It is not my aim to detail the military portion of the conflict. While the existing works by Tonybee are outrageously slanted in favor of those he deemed representative of "higher" civilization, they are nonetheless correct insofar as the facts are concerned. In terms of manpower the armies commanded by Enver were, on paper, superior to those of the Hellenes, even if one takes into account the Zionist intervention in the Hauran and the horrific losses suffered by the Turks against the Great powers. The British, French, Russians and even Italians, pressed in Serbia and on the main European fronts, preffered, on the main to avoid commiting their forces to the struggle in Asia minor until the spring of 1916. Tonybee insinuates that it was Hellen valour which prevented Enver from making use of the "darkest hour of the Entente" to throw the Greeks into the sea. Those who were there know that the one thing we Turks did not lack was valour.

We fought knowing that defeat, as events were to prove, would lead to near national extinction. Even when Djemal and Kemal turned traitor our courage did not falter. But courage proved of little use when faced with entrenched lines manned by machine guns and artillery. We threw ourselves on those entrenchments, women as well as men, knowing that if only we could expel the Greeks, the Italians would leave too and we might then preserve the heartland of Turkey intact, to one day take our place among the nations as equals.

By the Winter of 1916 it was clear that we had failed. By winter's end, the initial enthusiasm for Enver Pasha had turned into true desperation as our blockaded and bombarded coast yielded refugees rather than grain, leading to the first great death, a harbinger of the cataclysm of 1917.

In this book I will describe what happened after that failure, when the so called representatives of "higher civilization" had us at their mercy and yet chose the path of expedience, revenge and heartless cruelty.

Halide Edip : Sokirim- a pathology of the Turkish genocide.


(1) Which Anglo-Russian troops mostly control.
(2) Which they do not.
(3) Pretty much recognizing facts on the ground.
(4) Likewise.
(5) Effective control in the major cities, coast, transportation arteries, Jordan valley and jezerel valley. Patchy control elsewhere.
(6) Subject to raids and counteraids by both sides. No real control by anyone.
(7) Recognition of De-Facto situation.
(8) Bare Greek majority or large minority depending on who you ask in Smyrna. definate minority in aidin. But Greeks are fleeing from all over the interior of Asia minor. More importantl;y, the Greeks have boots on the ground when the armistice is signed.
(9) Recognition of de-facto facts on the ground except for West trebizon.
(10) Little Russian presence in Sivas yet. Still some Armenians but most have fled.
(11) By the numbers, Armenians to Russian empire and Cilicia, Greeks to Izmir and British portions of Dardanelles , Orthodox Syrian Arabs to Cilicica, Nestorians Assyrians, Yezidis and Mandeans to British Chaldea , Malachites and Maronites to French Levant, Jews (including Yemenites) to Kingdom of Jerusalem .
(12) Yes, this is lopsided. More muslims are being displaced than non-muslims. Not as bad proportions- wise as OTL Greek-Turkish population exchange (and unlike OTL, Turks and Muslim Greeks are not expelled from the Greek mainland and Crete) but much worse numbers wise. And winter is coming. Why are the allies demanding this? Partly because the situation demands it and partly because they wat to free up troops from policing restive populations and gain allies on whom they can depend to defend their local interests.
 
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Those last two updates really have the butterflies rolling, but also have some pretty painful elements. I gasped when you blew up the Hagia Sophia.
 

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Those last two updates really have the butterflies rolling, but also have some pretty painful elements. I gasped when you blew up the Hagia Sophia.

Well, you can thank Tlaat Pasha. That was his plan OTL- he had already wired the dynamite when the March 18th naval battle took place.

But honestly, blowing up that magnificient building was significantly less painful than the human cost of what is about to happen.:eek:
 

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Post #13: "transfer" by the numbers

First of all an explanation- there is no subject in latter day ottoman history so controversial as the demographic breakup of Lesser Asia. The only definitive and official censuses taken are, naturally those taken by the Ottoman empire. Trouble is, until the 1880s they didn’t even bother to count the non-Muslims, because they did not serve in the military and payed taxes according to a different system. Complicating the issue was that many non-Muslims received European citizenship during the period of Ottoman decline in order to gain protection from the rather arbitrary, not to say discriminatory Ottoman legal system.

Miliet leaders encouraged their members not to participate in the censuses in order to reduce tax burden and labor corvee quotas on their respective communities.

Anyway, According to the latest Ottoman census, in 1914 Asia minor and the Aleppo vilayet (Soouth-central Syria, Iraq and Arabia were not included) contained 13.5 million Muslims, 1.5 million "Greeks" and 1.2 million Armenians.

The Armenian and Greek patriarchiates ran their own "censuses" and claimed that the number of Greeks was actually 2.3 million and that of the Armenians 1.9 million and claimed a much smaller Muslim population in the districts they viewed as "theirs".

The discrepancy between the two counts relates to the charges of Greek/Armenian genocide. If the Ottoman census is correct then, if corrected for undercounted women and children, no more than 100,000 Greeks were killed in the WWI resettlement in the interior of Asia minor and labor battalions (which would make their death rate absurdly low- 25% of the general ottoman population died during WWI) rather than nearly 1 million. If the Ottoman census is correct then "only" 600,000 Armenians were killed rather than 1.5 million.

Modern scholars remain divided regarding the number of Non-Muslims in the ottoman empire but the majority opinion seems to be that Armenians and Greeks were undercounted, but not by design, not nearly the same extent that Armenain/greek partisans claim and that the same undercounting also applies to Muslims, though not to the same extent. Generally, they claim that Greek/Armenian numbers should be increased by 25/30 percent in comparision to 10 percent for Muslims. The Greek/Armenian patriarchiate figures are generally dismissed as utter falsifications (for one thing, how would they have any Idea how many Muslims inhabited their districts?).

Since, one way or another, the Assyrian/greek/Armenian population was exterminated or expelled during WWI and it's aftermath it's hard to compare the pre WWI Ottoman censuses with post war population to get at the truth.

Except that there is, in fact, one Christian group which did not suffer from a large degree of deportations and massacre during WWI. The Greek orthodox Arab/Aramaic speakers of Syria, in spite of being targeted by Djemal for leading secular Arab nationalism against the empire, were never subject to community wide persecution.

And that is the one thing that that leads me to suspect that the Greek/Armenian patriarchiates may not have been Bullshitting with their numbers. Because while the Ottomans claim that Haleb/Aleppo was home to only 60,000 christians in 1914, of whom only 20,000 were Greek orthodox and the rest Armenian, the rather more reliable post WWI French census, validated by later independent Syrian censuses, shows Christians as numbering some 200,000 in Aleppo, with almost no Armenians. As nearly 25% of the population died during WWI due to starvation it seems that the ottomans were indeed massively undercounting Christians- and possibly Jews as well. 130,000 Jews left Iraq to Israel and Europe post 1948- and yet the Ottomans counted only 30,000 in 1906, indicating that the Jewish population either grew more than twice as quickly as the Muslim one or that something was wrong with the Ottoman census insofar as the non-Muslim population was concerned. Of course, it is possible that this undercounting only applied to the Mashriq where they barely bothered holding a census to begin with.

((((The numbers game still lives in the ME, BTW. In Lebanon there has been no census since the 1950s. No one once to really find our how many Christians remain in Lebanon (probably around 20-25% of the population) since that would blow up the entire system of secratarian division of power and force the Shiites and Sunnis to duke it out in the streets instead of playing shadow games with Christian puppets. In Egypt, Copts are generally assumed to be undercounted by the government which prefers not to admit how large a minority they actually are. And in Israel, right wing Jewish groups claim, apparently with some justification that the Palestinian authority bueru of statistics, has inflated the numbers of Palestinians who actually live in the West Bank by nearly a million.))))

All this ramble means is that when the European powers and their various pet minorities are decreeing population movements, they are counting different numbers than the Turks, hence much of the outrage fuelling Enver's counter-counter-coup. By the Ottoman census figures (see below)+ post WWI census by Europeans and Arab successor governments in the Mashriq the following groups are facing expulsions/ voluntary relocation:



TTLs population exchange.
Erzurum, Trabzon, Van 1.75 million (2/3 Turk, 1/3 kurd) In fact, this figure includes many borderline groups such as Laz, Hamshin, and various Greek Crypto Christians who are likely to remain and probably reconvert to chrsitianity they probably number around 200-300,000

North Western Sanjaks of Izmir Vilayet 0.5 million Turks

Cilicia/Adana 341 thousand muslims of uncertain ethnicity Ottomans did not distinguish between Arabs, Turks and Kurds in their censuses. The population of Adana is mixed but was largely Turkified following the war

South Iraq/ Basra 550,000 mostly Shiite Arabs This is based on a rather inexact post WWI census and on a perhaps over generous assessment of pre-WWI mandean populations.. Prior to proper Drainage and anti an malarial treatment south Iraq was rather underpopulated. Also, Not all the Muslims leave- the British aren't going to chase after the isolated swamp Arabs after all.

North Lebanon, Latakia 100,000 Sunnis French zone of control does not include the largely Shiite Bikka.

Palestine, West Jordan, south Lebanon 500,000 Sunni Arabs, 100,000 Shiites About half have already left during the ground campaign Vs the ottomans November 1914-June 1915. Most Shiites leave for Yemen, some leave for Persia in an arranged population exchange for the Jews and Bahais.

North-central Iraq (Mosul, Irbil) 550,000 Assyrian, Chaldean and Nestorian Christians This is based on a back projection of Chrsitians as a relative proportion of the Iraqi population of 15-20% in 1915, assuming that OTL their post WWI demographic decline was similliar to that of Syria's Christians, and that the Assyrian genocide was interrupted before it took place.

North Iraq, southeastern Anatolia 100,000 Yezidis

Syria, OTL east Lebanon 450,000 mostly Greek Orthodox Arabs. Back-projection from 1925 census. Assumes they leave before the 1915-1918 famine devastates Syria (it killed 25% of the population OTL)

All over the Ottoman empire 750,000 Greeks Just like Pakistan, most Greeks did not actually live in the Areas Greek could practically aspire to.

All over the Ottoman empire 850,000 Armenians Ditto.

All over the ottoman empire 300,000 Jews Includes Yemenis, as well as Izmir and Istanbul Jews. Assumes 25% Ottoman undercounting.

Bottom line 3,740,000 Muslims (around 3,100,000 if borderline, crypto Christian/other and isolated groups and individuals stay) 2,900,000 Non Muslims.


OTLs Ottoman Lesser Asia census, 1914

Province Muslim Armenian Greek
Adana 341.90 52.65 8.97
Ankara 877.29 51.56 20.24
Antalya 235.76 630.00 12.39
Aydın (İzmir)1.249.067 20.29 299.10
Bitlis 310.00 117.49 0.00
Bolu 399.28 2.97 5.12
Canik 265.95 27.32 98.74
Çatalca 20.05 842.00 36.79
Diyarbekir 492.10 65.85 1.94
Edirne 360.41 19.77 224.68
Erzurum 673.30 134.38 4.86
Eskişehir 140.68 8.59 2.61
Halep 576.32 40.84 21.95
Harput 446.38 79.82 971
Hüdavendigâr474.11 60.12 74.93
İçil 102.03 341.00 2.51
İzmit 226.86 55.85 40.05
Kale-i Sultaniye 149.90 2.47 8.55
Kastamonu 737.30 8.96 20.96
Karahisar-ı Sahib 277.66 7.44 632.00
Karesi 359.80 8.65 97.50
Kayseri 184.29 50.17 26.59
Konya 750.71 12.97 25.15
Kostantiniyye 560.43 82.88 205.75
Menteşe 188.92 12.00 19.92
Kütahya 303.35 4.55 8.76
Maraş 152.65 32.32 34.00
Niğde 227.10 4.94 58.31
Sivas 939.74 147.10 75.32
Trabzon 921.13 38.90 161.57
Urfa 149.38 16.72 2.00
Van 179.38 67.79 1.00
Zor 65.77 232.00 45.00
Total 13.390.000 1.173.422 1.564.939


As I said, these numbers are based on the ottoman census. The real numbers probably involve less Muslim and more non-Muslim displacement. The borders, however, are not based on demographic considerations, but on the location of Entente boots on the ground.

Well, that doesn’t look too bad, does it:eek:? Sure, it's larger than the post WWI Turkish-Greek-Armenian-Bulgarian population exchange/genocide (1.3 million greeks, 750,000 Turks, 400,000 Bulgarians, 1-2 million mostly dead Armenians). But unlike OTL It's a semi-equivalent population exchange in which there is a place for everyone and everyone has his place, albeit not nessecarily the place they would want. It is achieved with less bloodshed than OTL's Greco-Turkish war or Armenian/Assyrian/Greek genocide and no side should be overburdened by a larger population than their land is used to handle… if everyone spends their energies on adapting to the new borders rather than trying to change them.

I think you can fairly assume these borders do not, in fact, look all that great to the Turks. Or the Arabs. Or the Greeks. Or the Armenians. Or even the Assyrians, who have been uprooted en masse from their highland homes to a vast malarial swampland. Or the Jews, who, with the Bosphorus open, find themselves overwhelmed with Jewish refugees from the Tsar's scorched earth policy during the Great retreat from Poland. All will be looking, in the short term anyway, for a way to change the borders in their favor. Enver pasha does not even wait for the Ink to dry.

From an economic perspective this settlement ignores the fact that the non-Muslim minorities of the Ottoman empire were predominantly town-dwellers, craft-men and professionals and that the population exchange would simultaneously collapse the distribution and processing networks of the rump ottoman empire and the primary agricultural productive output of the minority areas. It ignores the fact that the terrain and climate the various populations are moving to is very different from what they are used to and that massive assistance will be necessary for them to adapt. Given the fact that the world is at war and that much shipping is tied up that aid will not be forthcoming. Since the population displacement affects nearly a third of the population of the Ottoman empire, you can assume that the economic upheaval is huge.

From a practical point of view, the solution ignores that all this is happening in the middle of a global war which ties up shipping, and that Armenians/greeks/ jews trapped in the interior of the empire have already been disenfranchised, disarmed, enslaved, and massacre and that getting them out will be somewhat difficult.

It further ignores the quandry of Turks (and Greeks) in the Bulgarian zone of occupation and the massive flight from ruined Istanbul.

However, if one is operating under the assumption that non-muslim minorities could not survive in Muslim majority nations in the ME (and OTL, in practical terms, they did not in the Mashriq in the long term. In Asia minor they did not even survive in the short term) this minority mini-state formation looks like the best long term solution. At least if you are, like me, a minority.

And if this was an Utopian TL, this is where it would end, with all nations settling in to a new semi stable situation. But this is not such a timeline.

In the next post I will go deeper into how this relatively "equitable" solution runs head on into a nasty thing called reality When Enver Pasha overthrows the Brusa government barely three months after the agreement is signed…
 
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Post #14 In the fury of your darkest hour


August 1915 seems, in retrospect, to be the last chance the Teutonic powers had to achieve victory in the Great War. Having failed in their bid for supremacy at the Marne, having aroused the fury of the British empire by the violation of Belgium, Having seen their Latin ally turn on them, and having lost their ally on the Bosphorus, they faced a bleak prospect indeed.

As the overseas might of the British Empire mobilized and the landlocked power of the Russian behemoth freed itself from blockade, Germany must find itself increasingly outnumbered and out gunned by the Entente even as it's own industry and manhood starved under the British blockade.

This, however, is the wisdom of hindsight. In the fiery summer of 1915, the future prospects of victory seemed far. The Gorlice tarnow offensive had broken through the Russian lines in West Galicia, and pushed the Russians back to the Vistula, overshadowing our victory on the Bosphorus.

Fortunately, with Austria distracted by Italy and unable to provide the requisite number of troops to support the offensive, The German armies delegated to the Eastern front found themselves unequal to the task of trapping the Russians behind the Vistula in a sack (1). The East Prussian offensive was halted at Bialystok, and the Russians were able to fall back upon a stable defensive line formed by the Bug River, Bialystok, Grodno, Kovno and the Niemen river. Skirmishes along in Lituania the Baltic Littorial and the Carpathians continued to take a terrible toll on the Russians, who had by now utterly exhausted their pre-war supplies of Artlillery shells and whose industry proved wholly inadequate to make good of the lack, but the new and shorter front held, at least for now (2).

There was little we could do to aid our allies. With the shell crisis at full swing only a pittance could be sent to aid the desperate Russian forces. However, the freeing of 500,000 Tons of shipping made it possible for us to fill other lacks the Russians suffered from, particularly in the form of train engines, carts and engineers, as well as permit the south Russian farmers to find a more accessible market for their surplus Grain (3). While this would have little bearing on the 1915 struggle, it would contribute greatly to the 1916 Russian recovery.

Fortunately for the Russians, the German high command lacked the resources or inclination to advance their Nieman salient in the grand flank attack towards Vilno that H&L advocated (4). Instead, Falkenhyven directed Mackensen to gather the German Reserves and combine them to Austria's southern forces. The Battle of Serbia, which had miraculously thrown back earlier Austrian offensives, had begun.

The invasion of Serbia did not catch us unprepared. As the great force assigned to capture the Dardanelles was freed by the armistice of Brusa, all, save for two divisions to garrison Bigha and Gallipoli was shifted to Saloniki, where they were joined by French forces as well (5). Grand Duke Nicholas, out of favor in the Russian court following the loss of Poland (6) would assume control of the Russian expeditionary force (7). By August, most were integrated into the Line of battle under the joint command of General Sarrail (8). All in all, Serb forces amounted to less than a third of the force which took the full brunt of the German 11th and Austrian third army (9).

In spite of near equality in numbers, the multinational nature of the Entente forces, their uneven quality, and the need to devote considerable forces to deter Bulgaria for taking advantage of the desperate situation, made it utterly impossible to hold Belgrade or Northern Serbia. The Germanic advance was halted with great sacrifice at Nis, while Italian reinforcements enabled Montenegro to maintain it's integrity. Desperate negotiations by both sides ensued with Sofia, as it was perceived that Bulgaria alone held the ability to determine the outcome of the Balkan front.

Grand duke Nicholas, acting on his own initiative and in utter disregard of the wishes of his cousin, deserves the credit for convincing all of the entente powers, great and small, to make the concessions which kept Bulgaria neutral in 1915, and would lead to it's later entry into the war once the victory of the Entente became assured.

Greece and Serbia withdrew their forces from the areas captured in the Second Balkan war and permitted Bulgarian gendermanes, to re-assert Bulgarian rule over those regions. Russia essentially forsook it's claim to secular authority in Constantinopole in return to Bulgarian assurances for demillitirization of the European side of the Bosphorus and agreement to permit the Tsar of Russia to rebuild the Haga-Sophia and appoint the new patriarch of Constantinopole.

Bulgaria was further assured that future entry into the war on the Entente side, provided it took place within a year, would be rewarded with All of Vardar Macedonia and Saloniki as well- but this being contingent on massive Greek gains in Asia minor (9) and Serbian gains in Bosnia and Dalmatia (10).

In return for those gains and future promises Bulgaria was required to permit the Entente to transport supplies via it's rail network, as well as provide provender and supplies to the Nis front at a price which, while not unreasonablely low, were less than Bulgaria might otherwise have charged (11).

As Tsar Ferdinand causatically remarked the leader of the Peasant's party- "I should be guilty of criminal madness if I were to take my country to war before the issue has been decided when I can pocket many gains by remaining away from the card table and still retain the option of joining in once all have shown their cards!"

Serbia, it's army by then only a minute component of the Nis Front, was in no position to resist this cession of territory. Greece, it's hold on Izmir under attack by the Resurgent Enver Pasha and it's army wholly unprepared to repulse any Bulgarian invasion without Entente aid, was bribed into accepting the deal and declaring war on Germany and Austro Hungary with the offer of Cyprus, as well as Anglo-Russian promises for aid in eliminating Enver Pasha and assuming title to the whole of Aydin and the Aegean shore.

It was this later promise which would unknowingly make Britain an accessory, though thankfully not a beneficiary, to what may be the greatest tragedy of this century. Those who now sling mud on the desperate men who made the hard decisions might well reflect on where we would now be had matters gone otherwise. Hard as it is to conceive, the victory of the Entente was no ineveitable and it is by no means unreasonable to speculate that defeat, or extension of the conflict by an additional year might not have resulted in far greater tragedy.

As it was, the logistic advantage and freedom from fear of flank attack made by Bulgaria's benign neutrality enabled the Nis front to hold until the winter of 1916 ended the campaign. The Nis and later the Izmir-Brusa front also proved to be the perfect venue to combine Russia's surplus of Military age manpower, it's dearth of industrial capacity and railways, our own gradually increasing war industry, and the yearning of the Jews of Russia for Zion.

Indeed, it is in the hills of Macedonia that the Maccabe mercenary Corps, of such great service to the empire today, was born.

Winston Churchill, the world crisis

(1) OTL, but they certainly caught a great deal of stragglers, and the Bulk of the Russian forces only got away thanks to the decision of Grand duke Nicholas to sacrifice the Ivanograd garrison to delay the german advance. TTL, 200,000 fewer Russians are captured during the retreat to the Bug.
(2) OTL, the germans captured roughly twice as much territory in 1915. TL both is good and bad for the Russians. On the one hand their army is less degraded from the retreat and it has an easier front to defend with better logistics and natural barriers. Also, the Germans had captured less grain surplus and areas and Polish-Ukrainian slave laborers. But OTOH the Germans are closer to their railheads than OTL which makes them less overextended.
(3) The Ukraine and Kuban were capable of producing more Grain than they did during WWI- but the Russian rail network proved unable to transport it to the industrial North. TTL, the Railway situation is somewhat better and the existence of a West European market accessible by Shipping raises production. Italy may be the main beneficiary of this. Any Surplus freed shipping may be diverted to the Atlantic freightage now that the Germans have halted Unlimited submarine warfare.
(4) It was the subject of much debate and controversy OTL. TTL, the weaker Austrian support, the stronger Russian resistance in July, and the desire to rescue the Balkan situation all combine to make for a decision to avoid extending the Eastern front further.
(5) Can france or Russia spare the divisions? Not really, but as OTL there is an issue of post war prestige and influence involved.
(6) Given that the great retreat was not so bad ITTL why is Nicholas kicked out of command? Politics. The Tsar is concerned the army might decide that GD Nicholas might make a better and more popular Tsar (he would) and pull a coup.
(7) Why are the French in command when they are contributing the least troops? Also Politics. Neither Britian nor Russia would accept the other.
(8) Married to the Montenegran royal family and speaks Serb.
(9) CP forces same as OTL, but the 11th army is buffed up compared to OTL, with about 1.3 times the men and artillery. The Germans have less front to guard in the East, their forces are less worn down by pursuing the Russians, and they aren't counting on the Bulgarians to join in before the Serbs are out of the game.
(10) Yes, beyond the Western Sanjaks of Aydin. Paying for alliances with enemy territory is a common feature of WWI diplomacy.
(11) More or less OTL offer by Entente great powers, but TTL Serbia and Greece are not in a position to veto it.
(12) Commodity prices skyrocketed during WWI. Countries which, like Spain, stayed neutral could make a killing.
 
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Oy, bad times ahead for the Turks. When is Churchill's book published?

Bruce

It gets published around 1928 as opposed to 1923 OTL. he's not in political exile after the dardanelles and so has less time to fume and vent his spleen on his writing.
 

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Map- zones of control and interest October 1915 in Asian Ottoman empire

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Thick lines are what the Brusa government agrees to fork over to the Allies in June 1915 and which the Allies actually Kinda-Sorta control. Zones enclosed by the thick lines are also where the population movements are taking place (to and from) in 1915.

Thin lines are what the allies agree, among themselves, to reserve as "spheres as interest". Which means any one of them is essentiially allowed to bully the Ottomans there so long as he can do it on his own and so long as he does not formally annex the territory. The French and British zones roughly correspond to Djemal and Kemal's respective areas of control but discrepencies abound. The thin orange line encloses the territory Greece is promised in Asia minor if it hands over it's 2nd Balkan war gains to Bulgaria as well as Saloniki if/when Bulgaria joins the war.

Medium Red line is what ZIon-Britain interpet as being their DMZ while Djemal interpets as being HIS DMZ. Remillitirization and skirmishes pick up once the Germans invade Serbia in force and Enver starts his rebellion.

Note that there are two rival national governments (the Brusa based Sultanate and Ankara based Republic headed by Enver) in Anatolia Between July-October 1915. The regional warlords (Djemal in Syria, Kemal in Iraq) do not openly declare independence but de facto act as if they were including having their own contacts with the allies (and Germans).

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Population exchange map

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This is the population exchange as the Brusa armistice envisioned. It does not work out quite this way- not in Anatolia.

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It gets published around 1928 as opposed to 1923 OTL. he's not in political exile after the dardanelles and so has less time to fume and vent his spleen on his writing.

Churchill's "political exile after the dardanelles" was from May 1915 (when he left the Admiralty) until July 1917 (when he became Minister of Munitions). He was then continually in office until he lost his his seat in the Liberal rout of November 1922.

He wrote his WW I book in the interval between that defeat and 1924, when he returned to Parliament as an independent and then rejoined the Conservatives, becoming Chancellor of the Exchequer.
 
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