Most likely US

What is the most likely outcome for the US

  • Superpower in a cold war with France

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  • breaks up after 1900

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  • 3rd world nation (fully intact)

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  • Total voters
    98
Why not?

The original colonies were wedged in between several different competiting european powers and interests as well. A few lucky breaks managed to get them lots of extra land and resources but take away those breaks and the US could easily have just ended up as only a North America power.

The US needed two World Wars to end up as a hyperpower after all.

But the US had been heading towards being a world power throughout its existence (the US was already a borderline world power by WW1 anyway). Being wedged between different European powers and totally stifled would -to me- only indicate someone is going to attack the US severely enough to conquer it or turn it into a second rate nation.
 
I wish it was a multiple choice poll. Assuming the revolution goes the same as in OTL, the nation is incredibly likely to fracture. The states still viewed themselves as more independent, with the Union being incredibly loose. It really is extraordinary that a constitution was formed that allowed the nation to stay together and remain dynamic. However, I do believe that if the US makes it through it's infancy intact as one nation, it is destined to be at least a super power, if not a hyperpower.
 
I'm trying to be fair and look at the future of America from the point when it was founded. A lot of what has happened since then,the Founding Fathers could have never imagined. What I could think they would have thought,was a superpower USA vs the British Empire.
 
I would have thought the founders would have thought more on the terms of a North American power. And not to get involved in European wars or politics.

Prior to World War 2 the United States was considered an isolation nation. An isolation nation is one in which doesn't get involved in world affairs or conflict. Right from the start the with George Washington Neutrality proclamation the Untied States was an isolation nation. George Washington felt that the United States did not have adequate military force or a population big enough to go to war. The country remained an isolation nation for many years to follow. It wasn't until the extreme actions of the dictators of the axis powers that the Untied States unleashed its real power.
And I know exceptions were the Mexican-American War and the Spanish-American War. But that was more the US flexing its muscles in North America and the Pacific.
 
I voted "breaks apart in early 1800s", just due to internal squabbling and disagreements between the states. Something like the (rather rough) map below.

Three North American nations.PNG
 

NomadicSky

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I voted hyper power because that's what happened.

I like the idea of the US with pre-Louisiana purchase borders + Florida that's a good size for it to stop at and it wouldn't be a hyper power.
 
I posted my rough-draft "Canadian Continent" finally after a couple years as a response to this thread. My timeline is implausible itself, but it mixes some of the options. I voted for Dominant Power in NA though because even if it only controlled the 1783 borders there would be enough room for immigrants and enough natural resources for the country to surpass all its neighbors by the 20th Century and be respected in Europe. Addditionally, if it did Not have a history of beating up its neighbors, it might feel less secure about itself, resulting in a less isolationist mindset.
 
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