Most likely State to birth an Napoleon analogue?

It wouldn't be possible for a Napoleon analog to take control of the HRE, right? I feel like that would almost be unstoppable for a good while...
 
I would say Spain just to see the Spanish enjoy a brief revival in power and hegemony over the European continent. :D
 
Hm, well to get a true Napoleon analogue their are a few factors that need to be in place;


Firstly you need it to be a continental power, so Britain and Japan are out.

Secondly their needs to be the right environment for it, so after a civil war or revolution, during a time of great unrest or following a defeat (but not a massive defeat) in war, which means you need to change the localized history depending on the time period.

Thirdly you need a region that's simply not prepared for it.


I suppose you could get maybe a Spanish Napoleon during the beginning or mid-point of Spains decline or maybe an Italian one who rises during the 1600s-1700s and united Italy and then stary expanding outward.

I suppose I could see maybe one in South-East Asia if the right events occur to.
 
Honestly, my favorite so far is either Serbia or a German nationalist Napoleon leading the HRE. Or some kind of bastard hybrid of these...

EDIT: Upon reviewing LTTW, the alternate Napoleon is almost identical (at least at first) to the one from this book. I can't find it at the moment, however. But yes, something like that if it's a British Napoleon.
 
Hm, well to get a true Napoleon analogue their are a few factors that need to be in place;


Firstly you need it to be a continental power, so Britain and Japan are out.

Secondly their needs to be the right environment for it, so after a civil war or revolution, during a time of great unrest or following a defeat (but not a massive defeat) in war, which means you need to change the localized history depending on the time period.

Thirdly you need a region that's simply not prepared for it.


I suppose you could get maybe a Spanish Napoleon during the beginning or mid-point of Spains decline or maybe an Italian one who rises during the 1600s-1700s and united Italy and then stary expanding outward.

I suppose I could see maybe one in South-East Asia if the right events occur to.
You also need a well developed country with an existing powerfull millitary tradition and a large enought popullation to do as mutch damage as the OTL Napoleon.
 
You also need a well developed country with an existing powerfull millitary tradition and a large enought popullation to do as mutch damage as the OTL Napoleon.

And you need this large country to make the necessary reform to take all the european nations together at the same time (massive conscript army vs. small professional army). Anyway, we could also see that Napoléon, despite all the french propaganda (by himself) and european (only he could kick our collective arses), his military talent wass matched by many French generals of the era, like Massena (the dear child of victory) or Hoche, and all the administration and logistics of Carnot (the organizer of victory).
 
Though not an analogue, you could simply have Napoleon remain a stauch anti-Frenchmen (as he was in his youth) and offer his services to some other power.

On the subject of Napoleon in the Middle East, he's on record saying he preferred Islam to Christianity.

Anyway, we could also see that Napoléon, despite all the french propaganda (by himself) and european (only he could kick our collective arses), his military talent wass matched by many French generals of the era, like Massena (the dear child of victory) or Hoche, and all the administration and logistics of Carnot (the organizer of victory).

Interesting thing is Napoleon was perfectly aware of others talent, and used them to great advantage. It was his ability to use others as much as he's own skill that made him such a formidable commander.
 

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Honestly there was only one state in the late 18th century where I could imagine it, and that was in the Habsburgs domains. There simply lacked other states as massive as France. A French-style revolution anywhere else simply lack the population to defend themselves against their neighbours, and alt-Napoleon would never gain power without a revolution.
 
Honestly there was only one state in the late 18th century where I could imagine it, and that was in the Habsburgs domains. There simply lacked other states as massive as France. A French-style revolution anywhere else simply lack the population to defend themselves against their neighbours, and alt-Napoleon would never gain power without a revolution.

The problem, IMO, is that the Habsburg states response to revolutionary ideas was to start falling apart; the United States of Belgium, the Hungarian mutterings of revolt, etc.
 
The problem, IMO, is that the Habsburg states response to revolutionary ideas was to start falling apart; the United States of Belgium, the Hungarian mutterings of revolt, etc.

It's due to the Habsburg policy of decentralized rule - their monarchy was stronger than a mere personal union, but barely so.

OTOH France had more than a century of absolute rule by the revolution, so separatism wasn't much of an idea.
 
I too like the nineteenth century Serbia idea, but is a possible to have a Napoleon figure arise in the thirteenth or fourteenth century in Italy, perhaps as a result of the Hohenstaufens not dying out?
 
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