Yes that i think the us would have been in a more trickier situation in the early 20th centuryI brought the Kamchatka thing up in a thread last year. I couldn't remember any of the details, exc that it was in the 1920's or so....
Yes that i think the us would have been in a more trickier situation in the early 20th centuryI brought the Kamchatka thing up in a thread last year. I couldn't remember any of the details, exc that it was in the 1920's or so....
I've actually thought alot about that! I had the idea of a surviving Stuart Britain imposing military governors (like Caudillos) on the Colonies, who eventually rebel and found an oligarchic republic dominated by military strongmen and plagued by instability.What if America was unstable and had a lot of coups and civil wars a la Mexico style?
In the vein of "losing the peace", another idea I've loved is an alt American Revolution where the US is smaller due to losing more battles. They win their independence, but are more or less confined to the East coast and hemmed in by the British in the north, south, and west.I've actually thought alot about that! I had the idea of a surviving Stuart Britain imposing military governors (like Caudillos) on the Colonies, who eventually rebel and found an oligarchic republic dominated by military strongmen and plagued by instability.
As for the Most interesting scenario, I always think of 1of 2:
1. A very early US Civil War over the Constitution being too Hamiltonian. Sort of poisons the Union from the start.
2. The US rejecting the Treaty of Ghent and continue fighting the War of 1812, probably to disastrous consequences.
I am also quite fond of any "historical Loser wins the war, loses the peace" scenario, since much of the time Alternate History ignores everything after the War.
It certainly is.ASB is thrown at everything too lightly.
The way you say that sounds poetic though I'm not sure all that would happen in one timeline. I'm also a fan of worlds with alternate Great Divergences.Give me a world where the scientific method is first systematized by Islamic scholars, where the earliest factories and railroads are built in Bengal, with philosophy pioneered by the Chinese and where the first man and woman to set foot on space hails from the New World.
The Balance of Power would have a word with youthere wouldn‘t be much resistance against him doing whatever the hell he wants.
No, not unless Arthur is a genius. The Plantagenet domains if consolidated posed too large a threat to the French crown, and Philip was too competent/pragmatic not to take advantage of tje regency. They might do a bit better (ala Anjou or smth beinh kept), but the end result is likely the same.John Lackland dies before he gets anywhere near the throne. Does Arthur of Brittany and a Regency Council do any better than him when in control? I don’t know but I’d love to find out.
I agree that’s definitely the most likely outcome. But Like you said I wonder if it wouldn’t be quite so complete a dismantling of the Angevin Empire if someone just a bit better was in charge. I’m also curious if we get anythIng close to the Magna Carta without himNo, not unless Arthur is a genius. The Plantagenet domains if consolidated posed too large a threat to the French crown, and Philip was too competent/pragmatic not to take advantage of tje regency. They might do a bit better (ala Anjou or smth beinh kept), but the end result is likely the same.
What about the Battle of Regensburg as your POD?In all seriousness though (Mongol Britain doesn't count ), I've gotten a little obsessed over the past couple months over a surviving Napoleonic French Empire/Rheinbund/Italian "satellites"... only without Nappy himself - too much on the road to self-destruction Let's say he makes a horizontal departure of some sort sometime between 1810 and 1812...
Trying to figure out exactly what the succession would be for France, Holland, Westphalia, Berg, etc though is a rather nasty rabbit-hole to go down 😖
Regensburg is a possibility... was that the only time Nap was (mildly) wounded-in-action? I was thinking just a little bit later than that though.What about the Battle of Regensburg as your POD?
As far as successions go, they are easier than you think, at least initially.
Joseph gets France
Spain is evacuated, and Lucien's daughter Charlotte may marry Ferdinand.
Westphalia, if they can hold it, stays with Jerome.
OTL Nappy III gets Berg until/unless Joseph does not have a son. In that case, Nappy III might be in line for Holland too as his older brother gets France and, presumably, the hand of Joseph's oldest daughter.
Eugene de Beauharnais and his descendants get the Kingdom of Italy.
Murat and his descendants keep Naples if they can.
As in France is nice grazing space, the khanate is united and survives to the 21st century.Mongol happy endings then?