Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Koprulu Mustafa Pasha, Dec 14, 2018.
The sheer number of of the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade
Ernest Shackleton and all his crew survive his incredible and I’ll fated voyage. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Trans-Antarctic_Expedition
We call it, "History".
How two minor religious movements in the Middle East somehow grew and expanded drastically, to the point of converting more than half the world's population, and displacing most indigenous pagan religions around the world.
The Judean TL is pretty ASB. They get absolutely destroyed by the Romans, yet somehow they do super well, rebuild a country 2000 years later, and somehow become a major military power.
Also it's pretty ASB how getting cut off from the spice trade caused a few small European kingdoms to conquer the entire world.
General Howe not taking or at least sending some or all of his 20-25,000 troops in Philadelphia down to the Delaware, waiting for it to freeze and then walking across and curb-stomping the remnant of the Continental Army in the winter of '76-'77. Maybe Elizabeth Loring was just that compelling.
The tang being completely destroyed by one rebellion
I'm more willing to buy that than I am will to buy Rome surviving all of this.
tang didn't have mars with them
The Miracle on the Vistula River in 1920 against the Soviets.
I'm obligated by law to mention the double conquistador rampage of the Spanish in the Americas. Not once but twice, especially against the Inca.
So lemme get this straight.
You're telling me a bunch of Iron Age pastoralists survive three millennia of numerous conquests, forced removals, and attempts at ethnic cleansing or assimilation, and somehow manage to maintain their customs, language, and religion the whole time while having descendants on every continent.
Meanwhile, a minor sect of that original religion spreads to become the dominant religion of one of the superpowers of the time in only a few centuries, then becomes the dominant religion of an entire continent following the collapse of that superpower, then that continent conquers four other continents, spreading its religion to millions of people across the globe.
THEN an offshoot of that religion takes hold among a small tribe of nomads and merchants in the ass-end of the known world, they somehow manage to conquer and convert every other tribe around them, then manage to DEFEAT the two superpowers of the time, forming a single empire that stretches from the Atlantic to the Talus River.
Yeah, OTL is an Abrahamic religion wank.
What if we’re just living in a TL written by some dude named Abraham who wanted to make himself sound like a badass?
How the bastard son of a french duke from nordic roots ended up King of England after defeating his rival in a single defeat, and eventually this kingdom turned into the nemesis of the Kingdom he came from.
Agree whole heartily with this one .. but the Judean TL got quite a bit of help from some very serious powers; used as a pawn of secondary importance (Balfour) they benefited greatly; they were positioned and maintained for others' political purposes, not really an amazing event.
Pizzaroo and 150 dudes destroy the greatest empire ever seen in the Western Hemisphere, with population in the (tens of?) millions and facing grand armies of 100,000 soldiers.
How did a bastard orphan son of a whore and a Scotsman dropped in the Middle of a forgotten spot in the Carribean by Providence impoverished in squalor grow up to be a hero and a scholar?
A Turco-Mongol dynasty being displaced from Persia only to achieve even greater success by later conquering India.
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