Most ASB event that happened in OTL

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Koprulu Mustafa Pasha, Dec 14, 2018.

  1. funnyhat Well-Known Member

    May 27, 2013
    It can't be over-stressed just how horrible the first war was. France had six million casualties in a population of 40 million - 15 % of the population. Imagine today's USA having 50 million casualties in four years. How many people would want another war after that?

    Not to mention that basically all the towns along the north-east border had been destroyed. A century later farmers still find unexploded ordnance.

    It was tragic that Hitler exploited the reluctance of everyone else to fight again, but that reluctance itself was quite understandable.
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  2. Viralworld Éirí Amach an Ghealach Donor

    Mar 23, 2017
    Terra Incognita
    Probably the most ASB development in modern times
  3. EWilanO Well-Known Member

    Nov 24, 2017
    Some Georgian Priest becoming a literally mustache twirling Dictator that liked the medieval remedy of purging in order to improve his humors.

    The founding of the German Empire by celebrating it... Inside the palace of the enemy they had just defeated.

    A family squabble of the family ruling most of Europe leading to millions of deaths.
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  4. Byzantine fanatic Pasha of the Rumistan beylik

    Mar 19, 2015
    The Old World
    That the Aztecs appeased their gods with hearts torn from the chests of their enemies, atop giant pyramids. That was pretty ASB.
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  5. AkulaKursk Well-Known Member

    Jun 18, 2018
    the Great State of Idaho
    The Khemer Rouge killing anyone that could read in a perverted communistic revolution.
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  6. cmakk1012 Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2012
    The aversion of nuclear apocalypse during the Cold War, especially when it came down to one soldier’s snap decision on at least one occasion, was pretty unlikely.
  7. ShortsBelfast Events, dear boy, events

    May 20, 2016
    Human sacrifice appears to be pretty mainstream at a certain level of cultural development. Inca and Maya followed the same practice and it was apparently common in bronze age cultures. Phoenicia and Carthage may have continued the practice well into the Iron Age.
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  8. Byzantion Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2013
    Forum Romanum, Suburra
    That Mesoamericans cultures missed the fact, that round things are good for moving things.
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  9. ArchimedesCircle Radical Groucho-Marxist

    Aug 25, 2015
    Tecumseh's Confederacy
    Sure, if you live in a flat area or have draft animals to pull for you. They're less effective in jungles, hills and the Andes Mountains.
  10. EWilanO Well-Known Member

    Nov 24, 2017
    They had wheels in the Himalayas, so I don't think mountainous terrain is that good an argument.
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  11. Remitonov Yousoro~! :3

    Sep 11, 2014
    Crown Dependency of Singapore
    Oh my god, where to start... Alexander the Great, the rise of Rome, Eastern Rome limping through in agony for the latter half of its 14 centuries, Mongols, Meiji Japan... And that's pre-1900s

    Ah yes, the bizarre victory of Prussia over Russia where the Tsardom is taken over by a Prussoboo who proceeds to throw away all potential gains and indemnities to his empire to please his senpai.
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  12. CaekDaemon The Dragon Commander Monthly Donor

    Jul 5, 2013
    Borrowing a post of mine from the "what's the stupidest thing a nation has ever done" thread from Chat from last year, but boy oh boy, if the Battle of Flodden happened in a timeline...

    ...people would be screaming that the Scots were handed an idiot ball or something :p
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  13. Byzantine fanatic Pasha of the Rumistan beylik

    Mar 19, 2015
    The Old World
    I wouldn't say they were "limping in agony" from 750 to 1453. I think the empire was doing ok up to 1071. Even in the 12th century they were not done yet, and probably could have recovered.

    The real end was the collapse of the Komnenian system at the end of the 12th century and the decline into the Fourth Crusade of 1204.

    After that I think limping in agony becomes more apt.
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  14. Stahlheim Prussian Junkers For Clinton

    Feb 23, 2013
    Actually, given the degree to which the US is a superpower, it is mildly ASB they haven't expanded even more, especially in the Americas where they are still smaller than Canada geographically. Particularly odd are areas like the Baja peninsula and especially Cuba given how long American ambitions existed towards that island.
  15. Lalli Well-Known Member

    Feb 28, 2010
    Even more ASB is that USA expanded lesser than in one century only just from coastal British colonies to Pacific Ocean. And another thing is surviving communist Cuba.
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  16. ToolboxHD Well-Known Member

    Feb 11, 2018
    British Raj, it just so happened so coincedentally an industrial revolution bringing enormous military advances was happening alongside a massive empire decaying, not to mention how the British played the Indians off each other and divided and conquer.

    No one 300 years earlier would have expected an island with less than 10 million population would come to dominate an entire subcontinent of hundreds of millions of people.
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  17. ToolboxHD Well-Known Member

    Feb 11, 2018
    Well the United States doesn’t really have much of an economic incentive in expanding it’s territory in the Americas, its perfectly content installing puppet rulers and a sattelite like relationship.

    Not really that ASB, but it’s kind of shocking how there isn’t atleast 1 Asian colonial empire. I guess they just didn’t have the incentive to explore, find new trade routes and colonize like the Europeans did.
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  18. Hegemon of words and thoughts

    Sep 4, 2017
    Ribeirao Preto, World State
    The natural disasters that hit the Eastern Roman Empire in the 6th century, including plague, earthquakes, tsunami, more plague, perhaps meteors and volcanoes causing cold and famine, etc. etc. I know if I lived at that time, I’d be convinced God was bringing about the end of the world.
  19. Captain Seafort Well-Known Member

    Sep 6, 2015
    There have been at least two - one got dismantled in 1945, the other is still going and recently became the biggest economy in the world.
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  20. The Professor Pontifex Collegii Vexillographiariorum

    Feb 22, 2006
    Collegium Vexillarum
    Really puts the civil in civil war doesn't it?!