Moskova class amphibious assault ships

SsgtC

Banned
Most of the weapons we are getting rid of are for ASW
We are retaining the AAW and enhancing the ASUW weapons
There's no budget to enhance the ASUW weapons. And it's not just that the ships were obsolete for their original intended role. They are obsolete period. To make them even marginally useful in their new role as an amphib, they need entirely new electronics for the ship itself and and entirely new suite for command and control of the amphibious forces. In addition to a total overhaul of the ship's powerplant and hotel services. That means a bigger water purification plant, more galley space, more laundry space, more room for embarked supplies. You're going to have a lot more men onboard now than when the ships were designed. Their existing hotel plant will be incapable of keeping up with demand. Hell, on purpose designed amphibs, the desalination plants routinely are unable to keep up with demand for fresh water. By the time you make all the needed modifications, it'll probably be cheaper to just build a new ship
 
Didn't the Special K have issues with her fresh water? I recall reading that some of her woes included not being able to generate either enough fresh or hot water for about half her crew.
 

Khanzeer

Banned
You're going to have a lot more men onboard now than when the ships were designed. Their existing hotel plant will be incapable of keeping up with demand
the complement is 850 in original role
we are removing all the ASW weapons and their associatted radars , that should displace all the crew and maintainence staff associatted with those systems as well
and adding maybe 220 marines ( 18 ka-25 helos with 10 -12 marines each)
 

SsgtC

Banned
the complement is 850 in original role
we are removing all the ASW weapons and their associatted radars , that should displace all the crew and maintainence staff associatted with those systems as well
and adding maybe 220 marines
Yeah, no. It doesn't work like that. That would actually be a very small percentage of the crew and a lot of those systems probably use the same techs as the rest of the weapons. So your crew size isn't going down all that much. And if your only planning to embark a single reinforced company onboard, that ship is way the hell Overkill
 

Khanzeer

Banned
That is all it can accomodate , I do not think there is enough space for anything more

i do not have a breakdown of how many crew members operated those weapons so really cannot say how many it will save

but on the plus side , it brings 18 extra helos to an amphib operation which can be useful since the ivan rugovs , polocony, alligators ropoucha can carry only 2-3 each
 
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