More white dominions (not just British)

Perhaps Russia could whiten more of it's territory? If the Whites had won the post-WW1 civil war and instituted a fascist/theocratic regime, maybe we would have seen ethnic cleansing or outright genocide of Muslim populations.
 
Perhaps Russia could whiten more of it's territory? If the Whites had won the post-WW1 civil war and instituted a fascist/theocratic regime, maybe we would have seen ethnic cleansing or outright genocide of Muslim populations.

The Muslim population of Russia primarily live in one elatively large highly concentrated area, any attempt at Genocide would lead to mass rebellion in Caucasia and would more than likely lead to the Civil War starting back-up and possible intervention.
 
Realistically, only temperate climes with sparse and non-sedentary indigenous populations can become white settlement colonies.

That would disqualify much of North America and the Pacific, as well as Israel and Taiwan.

IMO it would be more accurate to propose three alternative qualifications: (a) a sparse indigenous population; (b) an indigenous population of moderate density which is off the Eurasian disease map; or (c) an indigenous population of moderate density plus settlers who are willing to forcibly evict the same.

I'm surprised that nobody's mentioned the Pacific, BTW - Hawaii and New Caledonia arguably count as "white dominions" in OTL (both of them, at one point, combined internal self-government with white-dominated politics, and New Caledonia still does), and it would be fairly easy to get Vanuatu or French Polynesia over the threshold. Even Fiji might be doable in a world where the British use Irish peasants rather than Indian ones for overseas contract labor. Most Pacific islands have a small population, so it wouldn't take many settlers to achieve a politically-dominant white plurality
 
The Muslim population of Russia primarily live in one elatively large highly concentrated area, any attempt at Genocide would lead to mass rebellion in Caucasia and would more than likely lead to the Civil War starting back-up and possible intervention.
Intervention by who? I can't see the capitalist powers being so sentimental that they'd back leftist revolutionaries to protect said Muslims. They turned a blind eye to imperialist butchery in real history, after all.

As for the rebellion in Azerbaijan, I feel confident that the Russians could handle it. The Israelis* managed to pull of comparable ethnic cleansing of Palestinians despite having far less of an "edge" then the Russians would have.

I could however see them having a great deal of difficulty in Central Asia, faced with guerrillas and fluid borders with Iran/Afghanistan/China.

*Speaking of Israel, would they qualify as a "white dominion"? I know they've got a lot of Sephardic and African Jews, but they were originally set up by Britain and were/are dominated by Ashkenazic Jews.
 
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Well, no WWI would lead to Germans being the majority in Namibia and Italians being the majority in Libya (both countries were sparsely populated). These two states could secede with white majorities given enough time.

I also remember reading on this site that Tunisia and Rhodesia could end up having white majorities, and possibly Algeria, though I suspect there would have to be some large-scale crackdowns on natives for this to work.
 
Intervention by who? I can't see the capitalist powers being so sentimental that they'd back leftist revolutionaries to protect said Muslims. They turned a blind eye to imperialist butchery in real history, after all.

Their would be more than Leftists opposing the regime, and frankly a regime like you mentioned would be opposed b capitalists since it would itself be vert Ste interventiony.

And Turkey or the Ottoman Empire f its surviving might intervene, likewise any of the Western powers that see it beneficial to seperate part or all of Caucasia from Russia could as well.


As for the rebellion in Azerbaijan, I feel confident that the Russians could handle it. The Israelis* managed to pull of comparable ethnic cleansing of Palestinians despite having far less of an "edge" then the Russians would have.

It would'nt be just Azerbaijan, literally half of Caucasia as a whole is Muslim.
 
A neutral Italy in WW2 could probably do it. I remember reading that under Mussolinni's Fourth Shore program Libya was projected to be majority Italian by 1960. When fascism inevitably falls its hard to predict whether Libya will become an indepedent majority Italian nation or if it remains part of Italy proper. I see the same thing happening with Eritrea but Ethiopia and Somalia are unachievable imo.

This is the best bet with a 20th century POD.

Libya's native population was so light that Italian emigration was getting to be a big plurality (13% in 1939), on track to be something that could have become a European majority in 20 years had Italy stayed nice and neutral in WW2 and kept shoving Italians in at the same rate.

That was the key - a thinly populated territory that wouldn't have required much to alter the demographics of through heavy settler immigration. It's hard to find that anywhere else but in the settler colonies we already know succeeded (North America, Australia, New Zealand).

An Italian-dominated Libya is also less likely to secede outright, since it's so close to the Mother Country. It would, however, become largely self-governing before long.
 
A less self-conscious and stable Spain releases Cuba as a dominion to ward off American advances?

Peru remains loyal to Spain in the 1820s and are rewarded a generation later with dominionship?

If the Italians manage to establish their Fourth Shore, I doubt the white population would push for dominionship unless Italy messes them about - they're going to be surrounded by free republics decidedly upset by the displacement of the native Libyans.

If Italy were neutral in WWII and the Fourth Shore proposition did take hold, would there not also be scope for many French to actual evacuate in wartime to Algeria and then remain there after the War bolstering the numbers of Ethnic French in Algeria or even Tunisia. Making those states more ethnically diverse postwar probably with earlier calls for autonomous self government as well. The percentage of Europeans would never get as high as in Libya, but they could become a more important political voice within these post war states.
 
If Italy were neutral in WWII and the Fourth Shore proposition did take hold, would there not also be scope for many French to actual evacuate in wartime to Algeria and then remain there after the War bolstering the numbers of Ethnic French in Algeria or even Tunisia. Making those states more ethnically diverse postwar probably with earlier calls for autonomous self government as well. The percentage of Europeans would never get as high as in Libya, but they could become a more important political voice within these post war states.

the pieds-noirs in algeria were already on top with less then 10% of the population so increasing would change little. That being said, unless you have a MASSIVE french immigration to Algeria (it had about 10 million in the early 20th century), I don't think it could count as a white dominion unless we're talking in the same way as south africa.
 
the pieds-noirs in algeria were already on top with less then 10% of the population so increasing would change little. That being said, unless you have a MASSIVE french immigration to Algeria (it had about 10 million in the early 20th century), I don't think it could count as a white dominion unless we're talking in the same way as south africa.

Well in my timeline, Libya goes White and the Italians capture Algeria in a Franco-British War from 1950-1954. With the support of their assorted puppet states, the Italians send Italian, Croatian, Yugoslavian, Albanian, Austrian, French within newly acquired Italian territory and assorted settlers from Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, Great Britain and Spain.

It doesn't go so well at first, the Algerian people rebel, get put down violently, but eventually plans are made, and a White minority government in placed in the stead of the Italian colonial administration, with full basing rights to the Rome Pact (Kingdom of Yugoslavia, Kingdom of Hungary, Republic of Croatia, Empire of Austria, Republic of Albania and the Tsardom of Bulgaria) in perpetuity.

But excluding something like that, which leads to a Rhodesian Siege state almost immediately, the Pied Noir had a very slight chance of succeeding.

Another option is if Brazil can remain the center of the Portuguese Empire, settlement of the African territories could be handled with much more settlement in mind.
 
As others have mentioned, Libya is certainly one of the top possibilities.

Eriteria was also seeing heavy Italian settlement, but was only likely to see a significant Italian minority given the attention laid on Libya. Maybe around 30%, unless there are programs put in place to reduce the growth of the native population.

Algeria can, but only by virtue of attachment to France, and that requires PODs going back at least 60 to 70 years before Independence if one is to avoid bloodshed. That or there is a Grex infestation along the Somme.

Spanish Morocco if there is a steady stream of immigration in that direction, though Ifni and Rio Oro do not have the kind of economic benefits that would draw in any, leaving it exclusively to the Northern Areas around the Straits.
 
But excluding something like that, which leads to a Rhodesian Siege state almost immediately, the Pied Noir had a very slight chance of succeeding.

A possibility I mentioned briefly before was to have algeria broken off along ethnic lines. If this was done decades before the issues regarding inequality boiled over into open rebelion, it *might* have been done more or less peacefully with the pieds-noirs keeping the littoral between Oran and Algier, including both cities, and going for a certain distance inland.

Mind you, this would still more then likely cause some conflicts both from the pieds-noirs refusing to let go and from the indigenous who would quickly realise that the europeans meant to keep the best land for themselves.
 
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