More variety in male fashion

Flocculencio

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In modern Western and Westernised societies, it's very clear that men's fashion is very limited.

Almost any outfit consists of a shirt/t-shirt with trousers/jeans/shorts. There are only very minor differences in cut- frex, when I'm chooising trousers for work I pretty much have a choice between blue, black, grey and brown and between solid and pinstriped. There are a few more choices but not really that many more. As for shirts, you always have the standard shirt with only a few variations like lapel size, cuff style or tightness.

Compared to this the women's ensemble is incredibly varied with many different types and cuts of skirts, trousers, blouses and t-shirts.

How can we retain or introduce more variety into everyday menswear, both formal and informal?

For example, trousers didn't really become widespread for formal wear until the early 19th C- before that breeches were the norm. Perhaps we could have a situation where breeches and knee-breeches were retained alongside trousers? Or perhaps a fashion cycle like in female fashion with breeches and trousers switching in popularity on a thirty year cycle.
 

DuQuense

Beau Brummel is the Culpit, HE degreed Plain Black Trousers, and Coats, in a somber cut.
Wouldn't have mattered except he was a good Friend to the Prince Regent, and became a arbitar of fashion.
The British Empire then spread this fashion world wide.
 

Expat

A Louis XIV wank should do the job. I'm sure someone will correct me if this is just another history class myth, but the story I got was that he used elaborate fashions as a way to keep his nobles busy while he ruled the country. If you're spending six hours a day getting dressed, undressed and redressed, you don't have much time to plot rebellion.
So any scenario where France becomes a superpower might work.
 

~The Doctor~

Do men even want more variety in their clothing?

I don't. I'm happy with my Shirt/Jeans/Sneakers combo.

The real argument is whether you can do the same with women. And, no offense to the women on this board, but you gals do love to shop. I was witness to it earlier this day.:eek:
 

Flocculencio

Donor
Expat said:
A Louis XIV wank should do the job. I'm sure someone will correct me if this is just another history class myth, but the story I got was that he used elaborate fashions as a way to keep his nobles busy while he ruled the country. If you're spending six hours a day getting dressed, undressed and redressed, you don't have much time to plot rebellion.
So any scenario where France becomes a superpower might work.
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I think highly elaborate fashions would be counterproductive.

I'm just thinking of retaining the breeches of the 18th C- basically relatively tight and knee-length, worn with knee length boots or stockings and shoes.

After all this was the case for a while, even after Beau Brummel introduced the standard male formal dress that pretty much served as the template for the modern shirt-and-trousers combination. More conservative venues tended to frown on trousers- the Duke of Wellington was once barred entry into his club upon turning up in trousers.

Perhaps a vogue for "cultural" fashions comes about which entrenches some variety in male fashion? For example, kilts could become periodically fashionable, though in different designs from tartan and in different lengths.
 

ZaphodBeeblebrox

Flocculencio said:
I think highly elaborate fashions would be counterproductive.

I'm just thinking of retaining the breeches of the 18th C- basically relatively tight and knee-length, worn with knee length boots or stockings and shoes.

After all this was the case for a while, even after Beau Brummel introduced the standard male formal dress that pretty much served as the template for the modern shirt-and-trousers combination. More conservative venues tended to frown on trousers- the Duke of Wellington was once barred entry into his club upon turning up in trousers.

Perhaps a vogue for "cultural" fashions comes about which entrenches some variety in male fashion? For example, kilts could become periodically fashionable, though in different designs from tartan and in different lengths.
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This Kinda Crosses Over into The Rule Bavaria Thread ...

Even Today, Southern Germany Tends to be MUCH More Interested in Reincorporating Traditional Dress ...

What if they'd Never Lost it, And Lederhosen were Still Very Much a Part of German Formal Dress?

:D
 

Fellatio Nelson

I think it'll come back with a stricter social order, where richer people wear bowlers, journalists wear trilbys and the working man wears a cloth cap. You can tell I've not given this that much thought...
 

Max Sinister

Banned
Expat said:
A Louis XIV wank should do the job. I'm sure someone will correct me if this is just another history class myth, but the story I got was that he used elaborate fashions as a way to keep his nobles busy while he ruled the country. If you're spending six hours a day getting dressed, undressed and redressed, you don't have much time to plot rebellion.
So any scenario where France becomes a superpower might work.
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Yes, but wouldn't the king himself need that time too, if not more?
 
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