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Is there any way this nation could have more success in it's history ? Can it or successor nations survive to the present day and if it's successful can it remain jewish?
Is there any way this nation could have more success in it's history ? Can it or successor nations survive to the present day and if it's successful can it remain jewish?
Medieval "nation" is more or less an anachronism, especially for a steppe empire whom main social structure would be tribal.
Less "Khazaria" than "Khazar khaganate", eventually.
As an aside, Judaism may have concerned maybe 1/4 of the population elite : as all steppe empires, Khazars didn't focused too much on religious matters, and even less on enforcing it to themselves.
That said.
The main issue Khazars faces is they were right in the way of other turkic khaganates and realms in Europe. Whoever migrated in Europe was bound to come first on them.
Furthermore, due to the tribal structure of the khaganate, other peoples maintained a distinct identity and interests, as Magyars : would the khaganate be weaken, they would move on their own.
Eventually, more structurated entities (as Rus') or more dynamic (as Cumans) eventually took on them gradually.
For answering the OP, It depends on how you tought your question.
It is about a surviving Jewish Khazar khagante?
A surviving Jewish Khazaria entity, but not necessarily independent?
Either, but Judaity not being necessary?
I just wanted to know the possibility of it surviving in any form though like to know more about the probably of it remaining jewish as that is what first intersted me in it.
I don't think so : Old Bulgaria was more of a confederation than actual tribal hegemony as Khazars. It eventually favoured split, as well the really limited lifespawn of Old Bulgaria (you don't easily split up a domination that lasted some centuries, allowing Khazars to be tied up with precise regional structures).Could the Khazars somehow split their tribes and migrate in the different directions if they start to decline?
I don't think so : Old Bulgaria was more of a confederation than actual tribal hegemony as Khazars. It eventually favoured split, as well the really limited lifespawn of Old Bulgaria (you don't easily split up a domination that lasted some centuries, allowing Khazars to be tied up with precise regional structures).
Even this, only partial, migration happened not because of a start of decline, but because Khazars pushed them.
I would doubt they would react that radically in face of Rus' raids (as their power was partially based on the control of trade, roads, something that didn't really existed for Old Bulgaria)
Admitting Khazars split and migrate at the Xth century, where'd they go?
In Byzantium, ally of their Christian foes (Rus', Alans), in a Buyid controlled Middle-East? Or would they follow Magyars, then relativly well established?
It doesn't let much room for gaining power there. I fear their ownly choice at this moment, would be to be assimilated.
Maybe Anatolia? Although I'm not sure if having Seljuq (or some other Khazar general) convert to Judaism instead of Islam would work.