More Radical American Revolution?

The American Revolution is often seen favorably in comparison to the French revolution. The American revolution succeeded in establishing a constitutional republic with limited suffrage, a bill of rights and separation of church & state while France went through a reign of Terror followed by a series of dictatorships before ultimately regressing back to monarchy.

However in many ways the French Revolution was much more ambitious in it's ideals than the American revolution. Revolutionary France decriminalized homosexuality, abolished slavery (ultimately leading to Haiti's independence), instituted universal male suffrage, created & standardized the metric system, metric time and the Republican calendar. They even had a black member of the legislature, in the 18th century! The US by contrast, left slavery untouched (and actually continued the practice for another 30 years after the British had abolished it), extended the franchise only to a small minority of propertied men, didn't legalize homosexuality in some states until 2003 and still hasn't adopted the metric system.

So the question is, what POD could have resulted in a more radical American Revolution? I've seen TLs where the American revolution is more conservative, such as Washington becoming King (ala Napoleon), but not one where the American revolution is more radical, more Jacobin, more revolutionary.
 

Sabot Cat

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My suggestion would be a failed American Revolution, wherein the underlying problems remain but the institutions that helped to foster a class of well-to-do revolutionaries are cracked down upon by the British leadership. Thus, resentment festers in the colonists but there is no Washington-Jefferson-Franklin-Madison-like intermediaries, leading to a revolution from 'below' who have less ties to the previous order of things.
 

ben0628

Banned
I believe the main problem with this is that the main reason why the American Revolution was so moderate compared to the French or Spanish Colonial revolutions is that Great Britain was a constitutional monarchy (that already allowed some form of democracy in the colonies pre revolution) while Spain and France were absolute monarchies.

So pretty much Spanish colonies and France had to start from scratch (which is why it didn't work out, or went insane) while America more or less already knew what it was doing.

If you want to radicalize the American Revolution, make Great Britain an absolute monarchy and make the American population more militaristic. But if you do that, the revolution might not even happen.
 
I believe the main problem with this is that the main reason why the American Revolution was so moderate compared to the French or Spanish Colonial revolutions is that Great Britain was a constitutional monarchy (that already allowed some form of democracy in the colonies pre revolution) while Spain and France were absolute monarchies.

So pretty much Spanish colonies and France had to start from scratch (which is why it didn't work out, or went insane) while America more or less already knew what it was doing.

If you want to radicalize the American Revolution, make Great Britain an absolute monarchy and make the American population more militaristic. But if you do that, the revolution might not even happen.
Agreed. There really wasn't that big of an incentive to radically change the system. After all, the Revolution started as an attempt to assert what they believed to be their rights as Englishmen, which they felt had been transgressed upon by a bad administration. To get a more radical revolution, you have to do away with the alliance between the Radicals like Paine and the moderates like Washington, with the former ultimately winning out.
 
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