More neutral name for an Ottoman successor state?

There are threads about a potential new, all encompassing name for a surviving Austria Hungary. Suggestions for these include Dunabia and Liethania.

Now, what about something similar for an Ottoman empire successor? "Ottoman republic" is of course dumb, hence the need for a new name. I was maybe thinking Near Eastern republic but that also sounds dumb. Mashriq might do it, but the Mashriq region doesn't include Anatolia. Maybe some mashup like Mashritolia might be the best bet.

What do you guys think?
 
The name the state uses for itslef is going to depend on how, exactly, the state concieves of itself and how it came to be. Why is it a republic? Which, if any, ethnic group is dominant? If the Sultan was overthrown by groups more aligned with the state's Turkish identity (Republican Young Turks maybe?) then it doesn't seem at all a stretch for the name to still be something like the "Republic of Turkey" as it would emphasize the state's conception of itself as a Turkish state ruling over non-Turkish territories.

You shouldn't be so fast to dismiss something like "Ottoman Republic" as dumb or implausible. While we tend to think of Ottoman as refering specifically to the ruling dynasty, historically there was the concept of an Ottoman identity and people who identified as Ottoman. Indeed, for quite a while the term Turk referred more specifcally to the poor and Anatolian peasants and not to the empire's elite. Further, the idea of "Ottomanism" was prominent during the late nineteenth century as a concept for creating an Ottoman state and identity distinct from both ethnic identity and the traditional religious millet system. Essentially, it prmoted the idea of the state and the people as being Ottoman. It was a popular idea during the late nineteenth century reforms, which provides the opportunity for it to become the defining identity of a republican government replacing the Sultan. Perhaps in a sort of self-intensifying cycle more success of Ottomanism leads to more support for republican groups which in turn promote an Ottoman identity to cement their legitimacy in the absence of the figure of the Sultan.
 
There are threads about a potential new, all encompassing name for a surviving Austria Hungary. Suggestions for these include Dunabia and Liethania.
Yeah, and those are kinda dumb. "Eastern Kingdom" is already neutral and all encompassing.

Now, what about something similar for an Ottoman empire successor?
Probably [New Dynasty] Empire. I don't see it retaining its diverse and far flung empire if it's undergone the chaos normally associated with transforming into a republic. And a republic governing only its core can pretty accurately be called Turkey.
 
Depends on the nature of the regime. I myself am fond of the unlikely prospect of a socialist revolution toppling the Sultan, prompting the declaration of the Union of Near Eastern People's Republics (UNEPR).
 
I don't see it retaining its diverse and far flung empire if it's undergone the chaos normally associated with transforming into a republic.
Well, the Russian empire is a much more massive country, and it still managed to stay in one peice after a revolution.

Yeah, and those are kinda dumb. "Eastern Kingdom" is already neutral and all encompassing.
Why so? The 2 halves are called Cisliethania and Transleithania. So just plain Liethania is a good name
 
Well, the Russian empire is a much more massive country, and it still managed to stay in one peice after a revolution.
But Russia, unlike the Ottomans, has a massive demographic and industrial core which far outstrips the rest of the empire in war making capacity, and their evolution occurred when the rest of the world was too weak to put their weight into an intervention (and even then still couldn't hold Poland, Finland, and the Baltic states). Anatolia's advantage relative to its periphery is minimal as seen in the Balkan Wars, and a lot of the Ottoman Empire's territory was thoroughly penetrated by the Great Powers.

Why so? The 2 halves are called Cisliethania and Transleithania. So just plain Liethania is a good name
Both those terms were unofficial. Further, naming it after a minor river is really dumb.
 
But Russia, unlike the Ottomans, has a massive demographic and industrial core which far outstrips the rest of the empire in war making capacity, and their evolution occurred when the rest of the world was too weak to put their weight into an intervention (and even then still couldn't hold Poland, Finland, and the Baltic states). Anatolia's advantage relative to its periphery is minimal as seen in the Balkan Wars, and a lot of the Ottoman Empire's territory was thoroughly penetrated by the Great Powers.
I see then. What about something more akin to the Iranian revolution then? Keep in kind this is post 1900, so this Ottoman succesor would likely only keep modern day Turkey, the levant and mesopotamia.

Both those terms were unofficial. Further, naming it after a minor river is really dumb.
Minor river????? The Danube basin covers almost the entire area of Austria Hungary

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What about Rome? The Ottomans did claim descent from Rome as one of their many identities and it has the benefit of being something common to most of its historical territory. A successor state claiming that they and the Ottomans before them are the successors of an unbroken chain of Roman states going back to the Republic would be pretty neat.
 
What about Rome? The Ottomans did claim descent from Rome as one of their many identities and it has the benefit of being something common to most of its historical territory. A successor state claiming that they and the Ottomans before them are the successors of an unbroken chain of Roman states going back to the Republic would be pretty neat.
This would have some interesting implications with regard to its relations with Greece, Russia and Italy
 
I see then. What about something more akin to the Iranian revolution then? Keep in kind this is post 1900, so this Ottoman succesor would likely only keep modern day Turkey, the levant and mesopotamia.
If it's a religious revolution ... well the fact that the Sultan is the Caliph will be a tough circle to square.

Minor river????? The Danube basin covers almost the entire area of Austria Hungary
The Leitha in summer:
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What about Rome? The Ottomans did claim descent from Rome as one of their many identities and it has the benefit of being something common to most of its historical territory. A successor state claiming that they and the Ottomans before them are the successors of an unbroken chain of Roman states going back to the Republic would be pretty neat.
IIRC there was such a thing as a 'Rum' (Roman) identity in the Ottoman empire. It was associated with urban residents and with those who were relatively well educated and involved in commerce. Essentially, it seems to have been an identity used by those who were not truly part of the empire's elite and did not identify as 'Ottoman' but who wanted to distinguish themselves from the 'Turks' of the Anatolian interior, as the term carried connotations of rural backwardness. However, I understand that this term and identity fell out of use by the eighteenth century. Rum could also be used to designate Turkish-speaking muslims of the empire more broadly, but I believe that usage primarily occurs amongst the empire's other muslim populations as means of distinguishing the Turkish-speaking subjects.

Both of these are distinct from the use of 'Rum' in the name of the Rum Millet which included all of the empire's orthodox christians.
 
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