More centralised states in Siberia, North East Asia and Inner Asia.

Is it possible for more centralised and partially agricultural states to arise in Siberia and North East Asia. By Siberia and North East Asia, I specify those parts that are hospitable for seasonal agriculture, Like South Siberia and Manchuria, and not the Arctic. The nomadic empires, although having agricultural and some cities were not sufficiently centralised. One examples could be Liao and Jin empires in North East Asia and Manchuria. However they had a large Chinese populations and Chinese bureaucratic apparatus that helped in centralisation, despite Khitans of Liao still being nomadic. Is it possible for indigenous and centralised states to arise in this region, or it is only possible for the strong but decentralized semi-Nomadic empires to do so? Is the region itself not hospitable for such a state structure? If it is possible then how can states like that arise?
 
The thing is, it makes much more military and economic sense for people in open terrain like the Inner Eurasian steppes to forge nomadic empires and not centralized agrarian states. For example, throughout most of the Ming dynasty the Mongols were able to secure a constant flow of Chinese goods through raiding and (after the Ming government finally gained a modicum of intelligence and made peace) trading. This was all dependent on two things: first, the potent threat the Mongols posed to security in China as an extremely mobile force, and second, the enormous quantity of horses in Mongolia that the Ming cavalry relied on.

Without nomadism Mongolia can hardly threaten China, not any more than Vietnam or the Turks of the Tarim Basin. And what exactly can an agricultural Mongolia offer China that Korea, Japan, or Southeast Asia cannot?
 
The thing is, it makes much more military and economic sense for people in open terrain like the Inner Eurasian steppes to forge nomadic empires and not centralized agrarian states. For example, throughout most of the Ming dynasty the Mongols were able to secure a constant flow of Chinese goods through raiding and (after the Ming government finally gained a modicum of intelligence and made peace) trading. This was all dependent on two things: first, the potent threat the Mongols posed to security in China as an extremely mobile force, and second, the enormous quantity of horses in Mongolia that the Ming cavalry relied on.

Without nomadism Mongolia can hardly threaten China, not any more than Vietnam or the Turks of the Tarim Basin. And what exactly can an agricultural Mongolia offer China that Korea, Japan, or Southeast Asia cannot?
I am not saying just Mongolia, by Inner Asia, North East Asia and South Asia, I meant a broader region going from current Russian Maritime region to I guess Ural mountains. We can also include northern part of Central Asia like Kazakhstan in that definition. I apologise for being confusing. I was pondering as what to name this region that is occupied mostly by Russia, Kazakhstan, China and Mongolia. But in the long run, the divisiveness of the nomadic clans in Mongolia, was used by Qing, whose Manchurian cavalry rivalled Mongolian one, and also used divide and conquer approach to subjugate them. Jurchens, who became Manchurians. They, despite some misconceptions were mostly settled agriculturalists, who grew grains and millet, and raised oxen, sheep, pigs and horses. Only the most northernmost of them, Yeren Jurchens were. They were able to create a centralised states in this region, and then advanced to North China. Is it possible for other ethnic groups like that to achieve such a feat? I admit that the Mongolia is not conducive to such a settled agriculture in early age but other places might be. If we can consider Golden horde a state in that region, before its age of troubles, it has a growing urbanization, both in its European and Asian territories. Some historians attribute the number of city like settlements to 150. But however, that urbanization was stopped when the rivalling claimants to the throne of the Golden Horde arised after Khan Berdibek's death. So maybe with more centralize
 
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