more blacks in the USA

the first cases were in the 1950s-1960s the POD is 1921 so I'm not sure HIV would even be around

Aha, I was thinking of the 1964 Immigration and Nationality Act, not the 1920's Acts. Although that would also be interesting; how could African immigrant culture impact the Jazz Age and the Harlem Renaissance? I think Marcus Garvey would have some interesting things to say about mass African immigration to the United States, at the same time he's trying to bring American blacks back to Africa. How might black nationalism/ pan-africanism evolve differently in such an environment?
 
Aha, I was thinking of the 1964 Immigration and Nationality Act, not the 1920's Acts. Although that would also be interesting; how could African immigrant culture impact the Jazz Age and the Harlem Renaissance? I think Marcus Garvey would have some interesting things to say about mass African immigration to the United States, at the same time he's trying to bring American blacks back to Africa. How might black nationalism/ pan-africanism evolve differently in such an environment?

hmmm greater back and forth between the USA and Liberia? or W. E. B. Du Bois brings Kwame Nkrumah to America rather than Du Bois going to Ghana
 
hmmm greater back and forth between the USA and Liberia? or W. E. B. Du Bois brings Kwame Nkrumah to America rather than Du Bois going to Ghana

Well, that also depends on where the Africans are coming from. Would North Africans be considered 'blacks' in the United States? How would the 1920's US society react to large numbers of Muslim immigrants?

Theoretically, West African immigrant would have the most in common with the present slave-descended population, but big would that cultural gap be? Might the blues and jazz artists of OTL look more towards West African music as a 'roots' inspiration? What does would Louis Armstrong sound like if he used polyrhythms?

EDIT: Or better yet, could this lead to jazz going straight to late Coltrane-style free jazz, and skipping over big-band entirely? Imagine such a musical world; the butterflies are endless!
 
Well, that also depends on where the Africans are coming from. Would North Africans be considered 'blacks' in the United States? How would the 1920's US society react to large numbers of Muslim immigrants?!

likely they would be but I'm not sure if the North Africans would go to America

any ways West Africa seems the most likely African to America hub, long contact with the west, history of western Salves being taken from and forming nations there(Liberia, Sierra Leone) many English speaking nations, closest to the USA, sea faring history, its the same reasons that Pan-Africanism in OTL come from the US and West Africa, also French speakers will likely end up in New Orleans

also we'll see South African black too, its long links to the west and all

maybe in the 30s-40s the American South becomes a hub for African Leaders in Exile
 
Richer yet still segregated south?- Less hillbillies and the ilk with most white people being sensible middle class folks only having a few kids whilst the blacks breed like rabbits.

Or go a bit asb and have carribean islands in the US?

Or hell. This is the US we're talking about- one drop rule and all that. Have a drastically less racist society develop and so you get more mixed race kids however they still get classed as black.

Overall though I think the key is to make more blacks in the US, not to import more.
 
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A much higher black population - excepting that due to annexation of Caribbean bits - could only occur by way of a much higher slave population.

There are only so many places to be worked by slaves in the south, unless we posit an earlier cotton gin, so likely a big part of the difference would be in higher northern slave populations. New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania are the areas that could have supported a lot more within the existing economic system.

The problem with that is that much of the reason slavery was terminated in the north was that it was easy to do. When there are only a few hundred slaves, liberating them is not just moral, but also practical. The states where it was the least practical - New York and New Jersey - were the last to begin gradual emancipation.

Expect in this case the struggle over slavery to be primarily an internal one within OTL's Mid-Atlantic and Northwest. The slavery issue will come to a head sometime in the late 1800s.
 
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A much higher black population - excepting that due to annexation of Caribbean bits - could only occur by way of a much higher slave population.

There are only so many places to be worked by slaves in the south, unless we posit an earlier cotton gin, so likely a big part of the difference would be in higher northern slave populations. New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania are the areas that could have supported a lot more within the existing economic system.

The problem with that is that much of the reason slavery was terminated in the north was that it was easy to do. When there are only a few hundred slaves, liberating them is not just moral, but also practical. The states where it was the least practical - New York - were the last to begin gradual emancipation.

Expect in this case the struggle over slavery to be primarily an internal one within OTL's Mid-Atlantic and Northwest. The slavery issue will come to a head sometime in the late 1800s.

That has some interesting ideas. So far, we predominantly thought about increasing the slave population. But slaves would probably only be settled in the South without major differences. To get a higher slave population in New Jersey, Pennsilvania and New York, we could increase labour shortage there. To do so, I'd propose lesser European immigration - maybe due to higher immigration elsewhere, for example the British colonies. Another idea would be the Dutch having settler colonies on their own and promoting emmigration of Dutch and Germans there, decreasing the number of potential emmigrants to the US. Epidemics might help as well: Bird-flu killing many Europeans, leading to labour shortage in Europe and a as consequence lower emmigration. Finally, once the US is established, make it more military-based. Conscription of say two years from only the white population implies an increased demand of free labour as well. As Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New York have a high population, they'd feel conscription significantly.
 
That has some interesting ideas. So far, we predominantly thought about increasing the slave population. But slaves would probably only be settled in the South without major differences.

in 1790-1807 there were an even number of slaves in the north as there were in the south, this shift came because of the way slavery was fazed out in much of the north, though slavery ended most of the slaves had been sold southward :(
 
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