Moonlight in a Jar: An Al-Andalus Timeline

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Planet of Hats, Aug 21, 2016.

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  1. Planet of Hats Byzantoclast Donor

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    Don't make me move the capital to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
     
  2. markus meecham Marxism-Leninism-Bricksquad thought Kicked Banned

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    To be fair, the city had a name that was slightly easier to prnoounce before the victorians came britishing up the whole place.
     
  3. agisXIV Well-Known Member

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    As a Northumbrian I take offence...

    York was until the Norman Conquest almost in equal importance as a capital of Anglo-Saxon England surely?
     
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    You welsh? Slightly easier to prounce it still sounds like your chocking on food. English makes it actually possible to read and prounce.

    *Calls your bluff* actually thats in Wales not angland. Moreover you get tired of typing very quickly.
     
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    Damn @Planet of Hats gives some attention to northern england now all the welsh, and northerners come out of their caves thinking it is their turn.:cool:
     
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  6. Planet of Hats Byzantoclast Donor

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    The simple answer here is that Grimsby is something of a new capital. It is not as large as London but has developed in importance as a port, a northern trade centre and a place where Danish, Norwegian and Swedish traders come to trade. London is still larger and has a distinct culture.

    Grimsby got to be the capital in part because, as he did in life, Sweyn Forkbeard set up his seat at Gainsborough. However, his descendants moved the seat up the Trent and up to the Humber-mouth. Grimsby was chosen in part because it's close to the coast, well-positioned to accept ships from Scandinavia, well-defended by surrounding marshes and still connected to the Danelaw, specifically the Five Boroughs to the south and York to the north. The city's developed different than it did IRL, though even by the OTL 12th century it was an important fishing port. But the defensive and trade positioning played an important part for the Anglo-Danish kings early on: London had the disadvantage of having fewer Danish allies holding property around it and fewer people of Scandinavian stock in general among the populace. Basically the Danish-descended kings put their capital closer to their power centre, where they'd be less likely to get dragged out into the street by the potentially hostile locals.
     
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    Didn't stop the normans, the north was the rebelious part of england the normans jept having to crush those regions.
     
  8. Planet of Hats Byzantoclast Donor

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    It's a bit of a different situation because in this case, the Anglo-Danish parts of England are least likely to rebel given the circumstances of the Danish takeover: Sweyn's conquest followed an alleged widespread pogrom against Anglo-Danes on the call of Ethelred the Unready. If anything, it's the south that was more likely to push back against the Danes in this timeline.

    Basically there was no need for the Sweynings to butcher their way across the north because the north is their ethnic power base.
     
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    Btw is it canon that sweden rules scania?
     
  10. Planet of Hats Byzantoclast Donor

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    No, Denmark does. The map doesn't reflect it because I am dumb and forgot about it.

    Turns out that one sometimes misses these things when trying to re-border the entire world.
     
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