Moonlight in a Jar: An Al-Andalus Timeline

what's happening to Georgia, Bohemia, Hungary, and Poland?

Also, why is Russia called Russia and not a different name, you think with a different origin, it would have a different name?

Also, why York and not canterbury? and I can see a united angland and Denmark empire in the future?
Georgia's been hanging in there in various forms - I've just flagged it as 'there' but there's presumably been a few changes and wars with the Bataids over the years. At the moment they pay the Bataids tribute to keep them out of the mountains, but Bataid influence up there isn't as strong these days, which is making life a bit easier.

Bohemia is actually suborned to the HRE and under the control of the Geroldsecks, but is noted as it is on the map because it's a Kingdom.

Hungary continues to hold the front against the Bataids, and they've retaken much of Sirmia. They've expanded east into the Carpathians and established a number of forts there, which have done an admirable job of preventing the Bataids from raiding much of the Pannonian basin. Their monarchal line remains of German extraction - the House of Havelland got in a few decades ago - but they've adopted Hungarian culture and language. The current king actually married a Cuman to solidify the submission of a Cuman tribe that settled in southern Hungary.

Poland and its still-Polish monarchy lost a war to the Duke of Kessen-Rugen and his Prussian allies and coughed up control of Pomerania in the process, losing control of a lot of their coastal trade. At the moment the kingdom's fallen on hard times and is trying to claw back to some semblance of greatness.

So Polish-Ruthenian Commonwealth when?
As a Ukrainian-Canadian whose ancestors came from Galicia, you have no idea how tempted I am. But not yet. Not yet.
 
Do Prussia and Novgorod see themselves as having common interests? Hungary's already set the precedent of a strong Catholic state taking a relatively weaker Orthodox state under its wing.

How "Baltic" is Prussian culture? Germanization is the order for now but are the seeds of a later renaissance of Baltic culture (nobles still knowing how to speak it, people who speak it joining the army) still around?
 
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ACT VIII Appendix A: Prussian Society
Do Prussia and Novgorod see themselves as having common interests? Hungary's already set the precedent of a strong Catholic state taking a relatively weaker Orthodox state under its wing.

How "Baltic" is Prussian culture? Germanization is the order for now but are the seeds of a later renaissance of Baltic culture (nobles still knowing how to speak it, people who speak it joining the army) still around?
Prussia and Novgorod do share some common interests, and they know it. Neither of them particularly like Russia and neither of them particularly like Sweden. If any two powers in that part of the world are likely allies, it's those two. Religion is an issue between them, but not an insurmountable one, and there's been a bit of cross-pollination already, particularly through trade, which tends to take place in the border regions between Estonians and Livonians on the Prussian side and Tavastians and Ingrian Finns on the Novgorod side. The big problem Novgorod has is that it's very weak compared to its neighbours: It has a lot of land and makes a lot of money due to the fur trade, but its arable land area is sparse. There's farmland around Novgorod proper and along the Neva as well as in the south, but it's not great, and Tavastia in particular is much less developed than the core regions - which in turn are less productive than Russia, which are less productive than Ruthenia's farm country. Novgorod simply doesn't have the infrastructure to outlast its neighbours as they start to really grow into themselves.

Prussia's a different story. They inherited farming and organizational practices from the Germans and control some good soil. Prussia is much more populous, much more organized and has benefited enormously from German knowledge transfer, to the point that their military has a core of German-style heavy cavalry. They're extremely well-equipped to take on Sweden and Russia, though even in their case, their hinterlands are less developed than, say, Germany or France might have.

The upper class in Prussia are very Germanized, but with an underlying Prussian culture. Most nobles can speak both German and Prussian, though the clergy tend to be less likely to speak Prussian, since many of them are German imports - many of the church holdings in Prussia were historically subordinated to German archbishoprics, and a few remain semi-independent (the Prince-Bishopric of Wehlau being the most notable). Wehlau and these other church vassals tend to be straight-up Germans. The nobles, however, are a mix in origins: They're mainly of Prussian background, with a smaller number being German Adventurers who intermarried with Balts years ago, and a smaller number of Germanized Lithuanians, Livonians, Estonians and Samogitians who have come to identify as Prussian.

Once you get below the Prussian upper class, the native culture is still very strong. Baltic and Finnic dialects are the language of everyday households, though merchants tend to trade in German. In the Prussian core, the common people speak Prussian day-to-day and tend to use Prussian forms of Christian names, though the Church doesn't - they write it down in Latin. For instance, the priest in Wehlau might record the birth of a boy named Christophorus. But if you asked that boy his name, he'd tell you it's Kristups. If you asked him in German, he'd tell you it was Christoph. Religiously they are Catholic, but in the eastern parts of Prussia and in certain rural areas, pagan practices continue to thrive. The biggest hotbed of old Baltic paganism is Lithuania at the moment, while the Prussians are by far the most Christianized. The Prussian nobility tend to promote literacy in German and consider it to be the preferred culture, but Prussian culture is stubbornly hanging in, and it's likely that the Germanization of the upper classes could someday reverse.

It's also worth noting that the union of the former adventurer duchies has come recently enough that the people of the northern Baltic are still cognizant of themselves as Estonians, Livonians, et cetera, and these cities tend to have underclasses with tangible non-Prussian identities. Many of these other ethnic groups - as well as Slavs in areas conquered from Russia - have limited advancement opportunities barring adopting the dominant culture. The Germans and Prussians really dominate social hierarchies, with everyone else pretty much being serfs.
 
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How are the Bataids handling converting their Balkan holdings? Is it the (sort of) 'live and let-live' sort of arrangement like the Ottomans had or are they taking an active approach to conversion?
 
How are the Bataids handling converting their Balkan holdings? Is it the (sort of) 'live and let-live' sort of arrangement like the Ottomans had or are they taking an active approach to conversion?

i would imagine the more hellenised they are the more success they’ll have in converting the Greeks, as it won’t be seen as abandoning your community to adopt the imperial culture.
 
Great timeline, @Planet of Hats ! I’ve been reading it since it’s very beginnings back in 2016 and now that I’ve created an account I can ask questions.

What’s the linguistic situation like in the Iberian peninsula? Is there a Mozarabic equivalent in Umayyad lands, or has the local Romance become totally displaced by Arabic? What about Basque in Navarre?
Sorry to quote myself from months ago, but do you have any views on this?
 
Sorry to quote myself from months ago, but do you have any views on this?
Basque is still widely spoken.

Andalusi Romance has steadily lost ground to the Andalusian dialect of Arabic over the last hundred years or so. It still survives in some rural pockets and in some Christian communities, but a consequence of education primarily in Arabic has led to most people now speaking and writing that as their mother tongue.
 
i would imagine the more hellenised they are the more success they’ll have in converting the Greeks, as it won’t be seen as abandoning your community to adopt the imperial culture.
Hellenic Muslims is just about the coolest thing I have ever heard. I once heard that Islam was heavily influenced by Greek (Neoplatonic and Gnostic) thought. Additional Greek influence during an Islamic Golden age would lead to an absolute flowering of philosophy, and would probably have some serious theological influence on Islam. Look at how much Christianity was influenced by Hellenic thought in the early apostolic age by with the concept of Logos, the emphasis on the Immaterial, and the absolute unity of God. Can't wait to see the Islamic Origen lol.

I also realize that with Mesopotamia in the sorry state it is, that the poles of the Muslim world are Iberian and Grecian. Islam as a whole is essentially part of the Western tradition as much as Christianity is. However, instead of spreading from the core Romano-Hellenic roots to the hinterlands, it's spreading from the hinterlands to the core. Awesome timeline with awesome implications.
 
Prussia and Novgorod do share some common interests, and they know it. Neither of them particularly like Russia and neither of them particularly like Sweden. If any two powers in that part of the world are likely allies, it's those two. Religion is an issue between them, but not an insurmountable one, and there's been a bit of cross-pollination already, particularly through trade, which tends to take place in the border regions between Estonians and Livonians on the Prussian side and Tavastians and Ingrian Finns on the Novgorod side.

Good to hear. If Prussia can preserve Novgorod past its expiration date, the Finns might actually be able to initiate their own exploration of Siberia. Although the northern seas are cold and icy they're reliable enough to provide an alternate fur trade route to undercut Suzdal's prices.
 
Wait what happened to the russian dynasty the Ruriks? Also does moscow exist?

Shouldn't poland be of the HRE, they didn't declare independence.

Also russia exists how did that happen?

Hashmites seem to be growing, are they making moves for the caliphate?

Both Egypt and iran seem to have problems. As they both losing land. Are the bataids planning on taking Egypt and iran?
 
Wait what happened to the russian dynasty the Ruriks? Also does moscow exist?
The Rurikids are still there. Most of the nobility in Russia and some of the boyars in Ruthenia are of Rurikid extraction. Fedor Khotynsky is not a Rurikid paternally, but has some Rurikid ancestry on his mother's side.
 
ACT VIII Part XVI: Dat Mapdate, World Edition
And the second part of the mapdate:

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This time, we're doing the map the right way up for the sake of clarity.


Asia

* Wu China: THE GREAT WU. China has begun to rapidly re-establish its hegemony, and its army is increasingly well-equipped thanks to those weaponsmiths and armorers beginning to adopt steam trip hammers and the like. The Wu's well-equipped army has been able to make good the invasion of Dai Viet and bring it firmly into the Wu sphere, and they've managed to complete the crushing of the Neo-Khitans. The Khitans have mostly been exiled and scattered, and their Tatar allies have bent the knee to the Dragon Throne. The Tuquz Tatars are now a Chinese tributary, as are the Aceh Sultanate and the Po-Ni Kingdom in the far south along with Keng Tung on the border. At this point China is beginning to gain momentum. They do have a huge ocean-trade presence, but as far as they're concerned, there's nothing worthwhile beyond Nusantara or Japan, so they're not at risk of discovering the New World - though Chinese ships are beginning to inch further northward in search of quality furs.

* The Mezinid Shahdom: A tale of mixed fates. In the east, they have managed to gain back some territory in Baluchistan, but since then, some of their Turkic, Kurdish and Armenian Muslim subjects in the north and along the Caspian have shaken loose a little. The Cahakids, Bahanids and Altanids all recognize the Mezinids as their overlords, but they operate with de facto autonomy, mostly due to their mountainous isolation. Of these groups, the Altanids are the strongest, ruled by an Oghuz dynasty centred in Rasht. The Mezinids remain one of the strongest groups in the area, with a large army and no interest in giving the Bataids so much as an inch.

* The Steppe Khanates: The remnants of the Tabans have somewhat coalesced, but not into a single massive entity. There are two settled khanates which draw their governing class from the Golden Khan: The Khutughids of Urgench and Khwarezm, and the more powerful Menggeids of Almaliq and Samarkand. On the steppes, there are three loose nomadic confederations known as the White, Black and Red Hordes, with the Red Horde mostly being Argyns. The Tuvan element of the Horde - formerly the Blue Horde - has somewhat dispersed into Qimir and other areas. Almaliq is quite rich and has a strong army, and Khwarezm's stable, but the steppe hordes are mostly paper tigers that are likely to fold under pressure.

* The Yugra Khanate: Pushed out of their homelands by the Tabans, migrating Kyrgyz followed the Ob River up into the little pagan principalities of Yugra, subjugating several and establishing a loose hegemony. The Khanate's ruling class operate out of a camp on the Ob and are almost entirely Kyrgyz, and they hold themselves aloof from the native Khanty and Mansi people, who begrudgingly pay tribute in furs and other products to their Kyrgyz overlords. The villages here are quite prosperous due to the fur trade, and it's getting to the point that the area east of the Urals is generically becoming known as "Yugra" in places like Russia and Qimir.

* The Tarim Basin: Two states have slipped out of the post-Taban yoke here. In Aksu, a dynasty of semi-Persianized Nestorian Naimans rules over much of the area, though Kashgar remains under the Menggeids' patrol. In the east meanwhile, the Uyghurs have re-established their mostly-Buddhist state in Qocho. Both states are thriving due to the land trade between the Middle East and China.

* The Niman Sultanate: The mostly-Muslim areas of the Indus Valley have been reunified over the past couple of decades by a group called the Niman, a clade of Persianized Naimans who operated as soldiers in one of the post-Tarazid micro-emirates. The Niman are extending their hegemony over much of the north of India and clashing regularly with the Seunas, and it's not clear who has the advantage right now. The Niman are Sunni but fairly tolerant of Hindus, Jains and Buddhists in their domain.

* The Hoysala Kingdom: The Hoysalas have had a strong presence in the highlands of Karnataka for a long time, but they've gained significant strength among the southern kingdoms over the last 60 years and have expanded into the regional power along the southern tip of the Subcontinent. The Hoysalas do a lot of business with Somali merchants and are trying to expand their hegemony a bit further north and east.

* The Radha Kingdom: Experiencing something of a golden period. The Radhas have expanded down the Arakan coastline and taken some territory in Orissa, and they enjoy strong trade relationships with Tibet, China and Southeast Asia. Enormous wealth is flowing into this little Buddhist power right now - and it's to the point that they're no longer so little.

* The Seuna Kingdom: Holding their own against the advancing Nimans, but they seem to be on roughly even terms militarily - but they stand a good chance ot keeping the Muslim power penned up in the north of the Subcontinent. The Seunas come from the Deccan tradition of organizing their empire but have adopted some Persian cultural mannerisms, which mostly shows through in their architecture. They're still based at Devagiri but have sponsored large infrastructure projects across their realm, including forts and temples and port infrastructure. They are generally tolerant of Muslim traders from overseas and are content in the enormous wealth they rake in. Some of their coastal cities, like Goa, enjoy a certain level of autonomy as a consequence of their prosperity.

* The Lavo Kingdom: On the path of expansion, making gains among the remnants of the Khmer and up towards Bengal a little ways as well as into Malaya to form a rough informal border with the Aceh Sultanate. While there is a Muslim population in the lower peninsula, by and large the Lavo are Buddhist and in no hurry to change that. Their army operates under a pretty standard Thai model: There's a core of royal guard, with the rest of the army consisting of citizen-soldiers forced into service periodically through a system of corvee labour. While this kingdom is pretty traditional and conservative, it's also extremely wealthy, with spectacular architecture. Lavo - what we know as Lopburi - is a great regional city, with spectacular architecture and liberal use of gold plating on certain cultural monuments, like pagodas. It's colloquially known as the City of Gold, in fact.

* The Aceh Sultanate: Hemmed in on both sides by surlier powers. Lavo wants control of the southern part of the Malay Peninsula; the Janggala Kingdom wants that too, along with control of the entire Malacca region. Aceh is the only Muslim state in the region, but despite territorial losses in wars with the Janggalas, they've held out thanks to the patronage of the Wu, who don't want a powerful kingdom controlling both Malacca and all of Nusantara. The Wu see themselves as having a key interest in Aceh because it is, in fact, weaker than its neighbours. The alternative is trying to fight a naval war over the strait with the Janggalas, who are a thalassocracy and could give them a fight.

* The Janggala Kingdom: Look who's got most of the islands! The Janggalas are a mixed Hindu-Buddhist kingdom and have stubbornly resisted giving more than lip service to the Dragon Throne even as they've extended their hegemony to various kinglets throughout the Nusantaran island chain. Coastal Borneo is mostly looking like theirs, though the inland jungles remain stubbornly impenetrable. Key to the Janggalas' success so far is that they have a very strong navy, mostly consisting of jongs carrying Chinese-inspired blackpowder guns that are actually more sophisticated than what's being fielded in Andalusia right now. These cetbang-carrying jongs are why the Wu don't want to get into a brawl with the Janggalas: While the Wu would probably win, the Janggalas would make it filthily expensive, and the Wu are more comfortable waging land wars than mass naval action. For now, the Janggalas are filthily rich and control a lot of key spice-growing lands, and they're experiencing a broad flourishing of culture, architecture and science. Future Nusantarans will look back at the Janggala period as something of a golden age.

* The Gapi Kingdom: Based in Ternate, it is a Buddhist kingdom, and it's managed to win tribute from the various micro-kinglets in the Halmahera Sea islands. Gapi is the world's leading producer of cloves and is currently absolutely rolling in gold. Some of that gold is West African gold: Andalusian merchants have found Ternate and are pouring money down the ol' trade chute in the hopes cloves will come out the other end.

* The Miura Shogunate: The Miura have finally gotten around to doing something about the Ainu to their north. They've conquered a big chunk of the southwestern coast of Ezochi, but it's been harder for them to push inland. The Ainu are continuing to resist, but they're outnumbered and outgunned. Most of the conquest in this area is being taken on by the Nanbu clan. This annoys the Miura somewhat: The Miura are a Taira clan with their power base concentrated around Kamakura, while the Nanbu are a northern Minamoto-descended clan with their power base in Honshu. The Nanbu are nominally loyal daimyos, but they don't always get along swimmingly with the Miura. There's a lot of political tension in Japan right now in general, really - feuding daimyos, high taxes, a couple of rotten harvests and an unpopular central government. It's not unfeasible that things could change here.



Subsahara

* The Simala Emirate: On a rapid track to development thanks to the arrival of New World crops. Life in Senegambia has been revolutionized by the arrival of crops we know OTL as cassava, peanuts, potatoes, amaranth, tomatoes, chili peppers and cacao, on top of the Asian rice already introduced by the Andalusians years before the Crossing. The Dahab/Senegal River area has blossomed into a veritable breadbasket, where Arab agricultural techniques are used to offset the capricious and rain-reliant climate of West Africa. With this greater availability of food has come a population explosion, a surge in urbanization and a rapid consolidation of once-tribal powers into a bona fide young nation. The Serer remain the ruling class, though a Fulani military caste has begun pulling more and more of the levers of power. With Fulani people basically scattered everywhere, the prospect of a Fulani takeover of Simala raises the prospect of a Fulani Empire emerging in the near future. The other fun factor here is that the Simala are beginning to build ships of their own.

* Ubinu: On the way up, largely due to an influx of two things: Gold from the pepper trade, and crops from the Farthest West. The Niger delta has proven to be a great place for growing cassava and potatoes, and as a result, the number of Edo people has rapidly increased, and the size of the city of Benin has grown. Not only is birth rate filling up the city, so is trade, with a number of Berbers and Andalusis taking up residence there as preachers. Ubinu is on its way to adopting Islam: The current ruler, the Oba, has openly converted, along with most of his retainers, and the noble and merchant class are solidly Muslim. The commons are still a mix of Muslims and pagans, though this is sliding towards the Muslims.

* NiKongo: Another story of New World crops and the slave trade. The NiKongo have embraced Islam and experienced a population surge due to Asian rice, though cassava's a bit further behind. This has led to the expected cycle of warring, consolidation and state formation. The NiKongo ruling class is solidly Sunni, though the commons is less so. They raid extensively inland and trade pagan slaves to the Moors, much to the consternation of inland groups.

* Kanem-Bornu: About to receive a bad time, courtesy of the Afro-Hilalian Addi tribe. Settled in central Africa just a few years ago, the Addi have heard about the culture and prosperity of Kanem-Bornu and decided they'd rather take it for themselves than eke out a living along a few marginal stream systems. Kanem-Bornu has grown somewhat lazy over the past few years, and they're utterly unprepared for an invasion by well-armed nomads from their southeast. It's likely that their kingdom will fall within the next year or two and become subsumed into the post-Hilalian world, though it remains to be seen if the Addi will remain Shia or if they'll convert and trade cheerily with the Sunni Edo and Hausa peoples near them.

* The Hlubi Kingdom: Not the biggest or the most prosperous kingdom, but the first organized state in the deep south Sudan. The Hlubi are a tribe of Nguni Bantus who have established a few stone towns, from which they trade gold, copper, ivory and other items. They collect gold from rivers and streams, they mine iron, salt, tin, copper and soapstone, they collect ivory and they do some farming. As a key supplier of raw materials to the Swahili cities, the Hlubi get goods traded in from the other end: They'll get, for instance, spices or bananas from Nusantara. The Andalusians know the Hlubi are here but have not bothered to mess with their paradigm in a negative way, since Kilwa's mostly-Muslim cities are allies to them.



The Farthest West

* The Otomi Alliance: The Otomi are slowly helping the Valley of Mexico claw its way out of the pit of disease-induced mass death, a task made easier by their embrace of Islam and acceptance of aid from the Moors. Umayyad acknowledgment and Hizamd-Asmarid assistance has ensured that the Otomi were the only central authority to survive virgin-field epidemic spread even marginally intact. They have extended their protection beyond the valley and taken the remnants of the Purepecha under their wing, along with a number of Nahua cultures. The Otomi military has adopted the horse, largely through emulation of kishafa who have moved in and become a powerful military caste - most of these are inland Berber fortune-seekers. While the Otomi ruling class is Muslim and has outlawed human sacrifice, many pre-Islamic religious practices continue, among them lighting a candle under a full moon as a throwback to their worship of Huehueteotl and the Otomi moon goddess.

* Anawakan Warlords: The thing with unleashing kishafa on the New World is that a lot of cities are badly weakened and a lot of Berbers want gold. In a few places, groups of kishafa have simply conquered individual cities in the periphery of the Otomi world. These cities operate as basically gold farms for the Berbers, but aren't individually very strong and tend to be subordinated to the local Makzan or the Otomi in practice.

* The Chichimecas: Getting horses off the Berbers was the best thing that ever happened to the Guachichil. They've adopted horseback riding, and they've learned how to both breed them and obtain them - first by setting traps for riders, later by befriending religiously conservative Berbers and developing religious ties. The Guachichil leadership are nominally Kharijites but have mostly just superimposed a thin Islamic veneer on pre-Islamic practices, and they use their horses to regularly raid the Valley of Mexico and other settled areas. They're constantly fighting the Otomi's frontiersmen in running battles over territory. Other Chichimeca groups are also part of the confederation - the Tecuexe are noted as being particularly dangerous, and still very much pagan, while the Mexihca are a threat to the Xalisco Kingdom - but the Guachichil are the core of the group and the most amenable to outsider ideas. They're a threat, but their numbers are also fairly few.

* Tututepec/Yucu Dzaa: Hanging in there mainly through distance, but diseases have done a number on them. The Andalusians tend to have regular contact with the Mixtecs (the Arabic name for them is the al-Nuwjabi, after the names the Mixtec use for themselves) through overland trade and visits from Sufis. A small Muslim population has sprung up here but the ruling class has not yet converted.

* Iskantinsuyu: Epidemic diseases and internal strife took their toll on Chimore, knocking it out around the turn of the 1400s. In its place, the city-state of Qusqu is ascendant, but slow to expand. Smallpox and typhus have swept through the western mountains and killed countless people here, and into the vacuum stepped the Quechua, who have taken the Aymara around Lake Titicaca under their wing. The ensuing state is sparsely-populated, but beginning a slow, difficult clawback from the depths of an unfathomable mass die-off. Iskantinsuyu means "the Two Regions," referring to the mostly Quechua north and the mostly Aymara south. It is unlikely to expand much farther, but it at least provides a foundation for a future rebound in the area.

* The Iroquois: More properly, the Five Nations. Five tribes along the Great Lakes have assembled together and formed the first semblance of a semi-settled polity in North America, complete with longhouses and squash farming. At the moment the Iroquois are a growing regional power, but with Andalusian explorers beginning to nose around the North American coast by way of Barshil, it seems likely that disease is just around the corner.
 
Or maybe the Janggala would rediscover Madagascar and make it part of Nusantara since the Malagasy are descendants of an older Srivijayan colony group.
 
Hoysalas looking massive, I like it. Are there any makzans on the Indian mainland? How strong are the Andalusis' relationships with South Indian trade/finance guilds (do they trust Hindu/Jain bankers with their money? The Mughal imperial authorities did...)

Have any Koreans on tributary missions noticed the steam engines? With the Wu capital in the south of the country, the route that the Korean dignitaries and merchants take would span through the entire North China Plain.
 
Hoysalas looking massive, I like it. Are there any makzans on the Indian mainland? How strong are the Andalusis' relationships with South Indian trade/finance guilds (do they trust Hindu/Jain bankers with their money? The Mughal imperial authorities did...)

Have any Koreans on tributary missions noticed the steam engines? With the Wu capital in the south of the country, the route that the Korean dignitaries and merchants take would span through the entire North China Plain.
The makzans in India are of a bit of a different type and mostly involve Andalusi merchantmen either buying up existing harbour space or building their own by buying land from a local ruler. Goa is one of their main bases in India - they control a makzan at the mouth of the Mandovi River, built on land they bought a charter for, and have partnered with local Muslims to run it to an extent. In Kollam, they bought a charter to a few coastal properties and built a few docks, and the makzan there is just part of the town. They did similar in the Maldives.

Basically if they find an established city where they want to trade, they buy a deed and set up a trading post in the city. If there's no room, they'll either a) look somewhere else, or if they're particularly unscrupulous, b) murder someone and get their property via skullduggery.
 
Forgot to ask we need a major update of urgell! You can't do them dirty like this.

I see a bright future of urgell, alliance with france they take romania from the rear. They take the rest of romania iberian land, maybe some french land aswell.
 
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