Mongol Christian Alliance

[NapoleonXIV]

If this has been done before, I apologize and please refer me.

In the 1200's didn't one Pope or another send two monks to the Mongols with an idea that Christiandom and the Mongol Empire team up for a Crusade?

WI they'd agreed?

 

[Max Sinister]

Do you mean the two monks who were supposed to go with Marco Polo, because Kublai Khan wanted to get rid of his "sorcerers"? (Kublai had wished for 100, but seems the pope hadn't them.)

 

[Promethean]

great

would be great if he would had sended those monks imagene a cristian china/Mongolia that would then conquer the islamic terretories and divide it

 

[Ran Exilis]

would be great if he would had sended those monks imagene a cristian china/Mongolia that would then conquer the islamic terretories and divide it

The funny thing is: that's not that far from what happened in OTL.

Though the Mongols have never been predominately Christian, (Nestorian) Christianity certainly had a pretty strong influence on the Mongols.

And coincidentally, Hulegu Khan, who led the Mongol invasion of Persia and the Middle East, was under fairly strong Christian influence as his mother, wife, and best friend (who also happened to be one of his best generals) were Nestorian Christians.

Consequently, Hulegu and several of his successors were quite pro-Christian.

 

[The Sicilian]

So, if he converts, that means a Christian Ilkhanate. That takes out quite the chunk out of the Islamic world, and basically the area where the Shia dominated. Interesting.

 

[Ran Exilis]

So, if he converts, that means a Christian Ilkhanate. That takes out quite the chunk out of the Islamic world, and basically the area where the Shia dominated. Interesting.

Pretty much, allthough I should add that the majority of Persians were still Sunni's at this point.

The Shi'a didn't dominate Persia until the rise of the Safavids around the year 1500. (the first Safavids imposed Shi'ism on their Sunni subjects)

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I should also add that a Christian-ruled empire in Persia and the Middle East will be somewhat fragile, as the majority of its subjects are Muslims (there are still sizable Christian minorities in this area during this period, but the majority of the population will consist of Arab or Persian Muslims).

 

[The Sicilian]

Really? I'm curious as to where the Shia were at this point.

 

[Ran Exilis]

Really? I'm curious as to where the Shia were at this point.

Well, most Arabs in southern Mesopotamia, the (southern) Persian Gulf coast, and the islands in the Persian Gulf were Shi'ites, just like a good number of poweful tribes in the mountains of Yemen.

There were also Shi'a communities among the Persians: from the 9th to the 11th or 12th century, there was a Zaydi Shi'ite state in northwestern Persia; the Buwayhids, who were a powerful Persian clan that controlled much of Mesopotamia and western Persia during the 10th and early 11th centuries, were Zaydi Shi'ites; a good number of the Nizari Ismaili's (a.k.a. Assassins) were Persians.

And until the fall of the Fatimid Caliphate in the 12th century, there were still Shi'ite communities in North Africa, allthough Shi'a Islam seems to have disappeared in Egypt relatively soon after the fall of the Fatimids.

However, as a result of Fatimid influence, there were (and still are) small Shi'ite communities and sects in Syria and the Levant.