Monarchist America: Implications for Latin America/rest of the world?

So, I've got two scenarios in mind. I don't if either is ASB, but whatever:

1. George Washington decides to turn America into a monarchy. Not an elective monarchy, but a democratic constitutional monarchy. ITTL, he would have a heir almost as popular as him, and he would continue Washington's legacy. In short, a monarchist America under ther Washington dynasty.

2. The American Revolution fails miserably and its leaders are executed. During the Napoleonic Wars, Napoleon somehow manages to invade Britain and subsequently, the British Royal Family and other important people flee to the Thirteen Colonies. The British Court is transfered to America, and after Napoleon's defeat, the Court is transfered to London again, but some sort of United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and the Thirteen Colonies is formed. ITTL, Prince Alfred of Great Britain survives and is given the title of "Prince of the Thirteen Colonies". Eventually, the United Kingdom dissolves itself and America becomes an hereditary constitutional monarchy under Alfred I.

So, what implications would either of these scenarios have for the rest of the world, specifically for Latin America?
 
1. You'd probably see more monarchies in the Americas. I'm not saying that they would all be monarchies, but you might see a Bolivarian Dynasty in Colombia. Other than that, I don't see how things would change much. Latin America would still be plagued by dictators, only know they would call themselves kings instead of presidents.

2. Not sure how likely this is, but the key difference here is whether Napoleon invaded Spain or not. If he did, then Latin America will likely still slip away. If he didn't, then Latin America is far more likely to remain under Spanish control. However, American settlers might end up crossing into Texas or Mexico, leading to another war.

Edit: Not invading Spain would be one of the best later PoDs for Napoleon to win the war. Also, even if Napoleon does defeat the UK, it's unlikely that the victory will be a crushing unconditional surrender. A "peace with honor" is much more likely, with Britain winning in North America and Asia (picking up Louisiana and the East Indies) but losing in Europe. Also, if Napoleon has managed to invade the UK and subjugate it to the point that the British elite have fled the country, than he's basically won, at least in Europe.
 
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Regarding the second scenario British North America likely wouldn't be called The Thirteen Colonies and more likely something more patriotic like New Britain, Raleightia or after its capital (New York? Philadelphia?).
 
Regarding the second scenario British North America likely wouldn't be called The Thirteen Colonies and more likely something more patriotic like New Britain, Raleightia or after its capital (New York? Philadelphia?).

Right idea, but the names don't work for an entire half-continent (and more if places like Florida, Louisiana, etc. are conquered in the Napoleonic Wars).

'American' was already being used as a collective name for English colonists from the Bahamas to Newfoundland well before the Revolution, and would still be used probably here, if maybe extended into 'North America'.
 
So, I've got two scenarios in mind. I don't if either is ASB, but whatever:

1. George Washington decides to turn America into a monarchy. Not an elective monarchy, but a democratic constitutional monarchy. ITTL, he would have a heir almost as popular as him, and he would continue Washington's legacy. In short, a monarchist America under ther Washington dynasty.

2. The American Revolution fails miserably and its leaders are executed. During the Napoleonic Wars, Napoleon somehow manages to invade Britain and subsequently, the British Royal Family and other important people flee to the Thirteen Colonies. The British Court is transfered to America, and after Napoleon's defeat, the Court is transfered to London again, but some sort of United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and the Thirteen Colonies is formed. ITTL, Prince Alfred of Great Britain survives and is given the title of "Prince of the Thirteen Colonies". Eventually, the United Kingdom dissolves itself and America becomes an hereditary constitutional monarchy under Alfred I.

So, what implications would either of these scenarios have for the rest of the world, specifically for Latin America?

Even with the U.S. being a republic in OTL, there was significant monarchist sentiment in Latin America. Many Mexicans wanted a Spanish Bourbon prince to rule their country, but every possible candidate turned it down. The independence revolts started out as movements loyal to Ferdinand VII of Spain (as opposed to Joseph Bonaparte), but the Spanish government had to antagonize them as much as possible. . .

Even as late as the 1860s, the conservative faction of Mexicans supported Emperor Maximilian. Of course, Benito Juárez turned out to be more popular in the end.

Juan José Flores of Ecuador plotted to revive monarchy in Ecuador, Peru, and Bolivia in the 1840s, and even as late as the 1860s had talked to the Spanish Bourbons about this.

You could also make the Braganzas last longer in Brazil to legitimize monarchy if you want a later POD.

Even if you don't make the U.S. a monarchy in your TL, it is possible to keep it in Latin America. If you make the U.S. a monarchy, you will cancel out one of the inspirations for Bolívar's republicanism.

Good luck with your timelines. New World monarchies sound so out of place to me that it could give it that "alternate history feel". :)

Check out the Penguin History of Latin America for more details concerning Latin American monarchism.
 
In the first scenario, the French Revolution probably gets very interesting. They might try to stabalize around a constitutional monarchy, which makes some very interesting butterflies. However, I'd think that unlikely given just how badly the King and Queen were hated ("Let them eat cake" anyone?). So maybe you'll get Robespierre trying to be like an emperor/dictator, so he'd still probably be takin out. So say it gets to Napoleon. He'd probably get a lot of support from an American Monarchy if he can prove he can stabalize France and Washington's successor* might very well support him as a new King for France.
So let's, for the sake on making a detailed timeline about this (though I may later, in truth, but not now), say Napoleon is now King of France (or maybe he does go for title of emperor, but it's essentially a monarchy), maybe his better relations with America make him slightly less expansionist? So if that's the case, maybe his invasion of Russia gets delayed enough that America can call in France's help in the War of 1812 (because they now have closer relations as two young monarchies!!). I won't even try to work with the butterflies after that, oh my gosh! XD

* Who would be Washington's successor?? He didn't have a son. His closest male heir of sorts would be his nephew Bushrod Washington. I personally think Washington would know better than to make Adams his successor (if we take it out of the Washington Dynasty), just because he was VERY unlikable. Jefferson wouldn't accept it, I don't think. Maybe Hamilton gets the nod? He supported a monarchy anyways...
 
So, I've got two scenarios in mind. I don't if either is ASB, but whatever:

1. George Washington decides to turn America into a monarchy. Not an elective monarchy, but a democratic constitutional monarchy. ITTL, he would have a heir almost as popular as him, and he would continue Washington's legacy. In short, a monarchist America under ther Washington dynasty.

2. The American Revolution fails miserably and its leaders are executed. During the Napoleonic Wars, Napoleon somehow manages to invade Britain and subsequently, the British Royal Family and other important people flee to the Thirteen Colonies. The British Court is transfered to America, and after Napoleon's defeat, the Court is transfered to London again, but some sort of United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and the Thirteen Colonies is formed. ITTL, Prince Alfred of Great Britain survives and is given the title of "Prince of the Thirteen Colonies". Eventually, the United Kingdom dissolves itself and America becomes an hereditary constitutional monarchy under Alfred I.

So, what implications would either of these scenarios have for the rest of the world, specifically for Latin America?

I am assuming by Prince Alfred, you mean Duke of Edinburgh & Coburg? Second son of Victoria.

I would love to see this theme developed and America develop its own monarchy descended from the British monarchy.

Perhaps Arthur of Connaught could be sent to Australia as a King of a United Oceania or Australasia.
 
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