Modernization of Stg 44

In the event of Nazi "close victory" or other events which cause the Sturmgewehr 44 to continue to be used, how to modernize it? Maybe in style of the AKs?
Or maybe how the US transforms the woody M14 into the M14 EBR?

Thanks in advance!
 
Heckler and Koch turned it into the G3 IOTL.

Actually H&K only produced it, it was developed by the spanish firm CETME, and it can trace its ancestry back to the StG45 prototypes (same designer too).
It has nothing to do with the StG44
 
I don't think it'd end up like the G3, they're not even really the same kind of weapon. The G3 is a battle rifle, whereas the Stg44 is a true assault rifle. Anyway, I think it'd end up more like the Stg45. Far as I can tell it had all the same advantages of the 44 while being lighter and easier to produce. Not sure where it'd go from there.
 
Maybe in a bloodier victory scenario, more people will take notice of the 7.92 kurz calible leading to a 3 way split in NATO (US 7.62, UK & Commonwealth .280/7.2, Continental Europe 7.92k) Germany (undivided perhaps) introduces the StG 48 (think 44 tarted up with bayonet lug and rifle grenade facilities). The Americans might change the thinking behind their rifle/ammo design , but even if they do you're probably still looking at rifle with a .3" bore
 

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Actually H&K only produced it, it was developed by the spanish firm CETME, and it can trace its ancestry back to the StG45 prototypes (same designer too).
It has nothing to do with the StG44

H&K had nothing to do with it, other than hiring some of the designers later on. The Stg45 was the further development of the Stg44.
 

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H&K had nothing to do with it, other than hiring some of the designers later on. The Stg45 was the further development of the Stg44.

No the Stg 44 used a tilting block system and the Stg 45 (M) used a roller delayed system like the later CETME rifle. Total different rifles.
 
Having looked at the StG 44 a better sight set would be the first on the list. Second, adapt the top and forearm for a rail system. Then replace the wooden stock, skeleton/folding? Possibly switch to a different cartridge, I'm not sure if or where, outside Hollywood, the 7.9mm Kurz is still viable.
 
Having looked at the StG 44 a better sight set would be the first on the list. Second, adapt the top and forearm for a rail system. Then replace the wooden stock, skeleton/folding? Possibly switch to a different cartridge, I'm not sure if or where, outside Hollywood, the 7.9mm Kurz is still viable.

Former Yugoslavia produced it, and if i am correct, in Serbia they still produce it. East germany produced it for a while, but i think they stopped it somewhere in the 60s. Somewhere in Afrika they produce it, and im sure, that in Pakistan the make some in manufacturies.
Altogether its a rare ammo, but obtainable.
 
The OTL rarity of 7.92 Kurz ammo is a moot point considering that we are discuss modernising the rifle. Either it's switched to another calibre or scarcity becomes a non issue at the rifle and round become commonplace in most militaries.
 
Having looked at the StG 44 a better sight set would be the first on the list. Second, adapt the top and forearm for a rail system. Then replace the wooden stock, skeleton/folding? Possibly switch to a different cartridge, I'm not sure if or where, outside Hollywood, the 7.9mm Kurz is still viable.

Someone must be making it because this company is making weapons chambered for it.
 
Maybe in a bloodier victory scenario, more people will take notice of the 7.92 kurz calible leading to a 3 way split in NATO (US 7.62, UK & Commonwealth .280/7.2, Continental Europe 7.92k)

Probably not so clear a divide. IOTL Belgium favoured the .280 round and designed prototype FAL's in it alongside those chambered for 7.92K. I would image The Commonwealth, Belgium, The Netherlands and Scandinavia all going for .280 weapons, Germany, Spain and maybe Italy going 7.92K and France going it's own way.
 
I have to admit I'd never heard of the StG 45, just the MP 43/StG 44 and it's Walther competitor (I think that's right).

I guess the Reich's client states would have got the cast off StG 44s when the heer adopted the StG 45. Maybe the regime keep manufacturing the older more expensive weapon for its clients, seeing as those countries would be a pretty captive market and would have to pay the premium prices for those 44s. The Nazis would hesitate to sell newer assault weapons to anyone not a fairly topdraw ally.

Here's a very interesting spin-off of the StG 45 in OT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEAM_Modèle_1950

A .30 assault rifle! And it's not the first time someone though to make one, the makers of the Thompson SMG had the same idea ten years earlier.
 
I've been thinking, there's another thread in After 1900 asking about a 6.8mm M16 variant, and I'm wondering if some sort of combination of the two might be feasible now. Perhaps the StG45 ends up in certain hands post war, and a variant is developed to take the .280 cartridge. This is so effective that Eugene Stoner designes his weapon from the beginning to take this cartridge.
 
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