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Moglwi

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I was reading the Osprey universal carrier book in it they talk about protype of one wich has a 2Ib Anti tank gun built on it in 1936. (There is a picture but no luck finding it on the web) I was wondering if this had gone into production how this would have effected the Battle of France if the BEF had such a mobile Anti tank system? The Mechanisation Experimental Establishment was very complementary The gun had a traverse of 20 degrees ether side of dead centre =15 -10 elvetion depresion.
 

MacCaulay

Banned
Well, to be honest it sounds like the prototypical armoured personnel carrier.

The ability to follow through an armoured breakthrough with the speed of the tanks, and the ability to provide the infantry it's carrying with support. I think that's pretty much the definition of an armoured personnel carrier.

I don't think it's something the British would've known how to use correctly, but if the Germans got a hold of it, they had the doctrine that was much more suited to it's usage.
 
You mean this:
cxr_webb_336x216.jpg

2_pdr_Aust_ATG_carrier(AWM_134672).jpg

uc2pdr1.jpg

?
 

Moglwi

Monthly Donor
You mean this:
cxr_webb_336x216.jpg

2_pdr_Aust_ATG_carrier(AWM_134672).jpg

uc2pdr1.jpg

?

No and yes. It was a carrier but the gun was mounted forward

the driver and commanders could close down there area then there was a arge fixec conical gun shild behind them the gun then moved within that sheild . To the other poster it was in no way shape of rorm an IVF it could only carry a crew of 4. It could have been a handy addition to the cav scout force attached to the BEF inf divs.
 
You mean this:
cxr_webb_336x216.jpg

2_pdr_Aust_ATG_carrier(AWM_134672).jpg

uc2pdr1.jpg

Wiki sez of the above vehicle:
The Carrier, Anti-tank, 2-pdr, (Aust) or Carrier, Tank Attack, 2-pdr (Aust) was a heavily modified and lengthened LP2 carrier with a fully traversable QF 2 pounder anti-tank gun mounted on a platform at the rear and the engine moved to the front left of the vehicle. Stowage was provided for 112 rounds of 2pdr ammunition. 200 were produced and used for training...

Interesting, also:
3 inch Mortar Carrier (Aust)
The Carrier, 3-inch Mortar (Aust) was a design based on the 2 Pounder Carrier with a 3-inch mortar mounted in place of the 2 pounder. Designed to enable the mortar to have 360 degree traverse and to be fired either from the vehicle, or dismounted. 400 were produced and were ultimately sent as military aid to the Nationalist Chinese Army.
{we sent them to the KMT? I had no idea}

Other heavy weapons equipped Universal Carriers:

Fahrgestell Bren (e)
A captured carrier of 1940, reused by the Germans with a 3.7 cm PaK gun.
Panzerjäger Bren 731(e)
Bren carriers captured by the Germans and fitted with a triple Panzerschreck mount, probably the first armoured vehicle to be fitted with anti-tank rockets...
CATI 90
A Belgian SPG development, in use from 1954 to 1962. The vehicle was called "Canon antitank d'infanterie automoteur 90mm" and served in infantry units with a paired ammunition carrier.

The two Nazi weapons platforms were based on the standard carriers, the Australian and Belgian vehicles had enlarged wheelbases. The British and Canadians also built larger versions/prototypes of the Bren Carrier, though Wiki doesn't say if they were up-gunned.

So, larger Bren Carriers as early infantry fighting vehicles? That would be a bit of a game changer.
 
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