Miscellaneous >1900 (Alternate) History Thread

[goalieboy82]

say the UK was taken over by the Nazis during WW2 and they kept it to this day. if Edward VIII became King again (if the Nazis were able to get him before he left Portugal) who would be King/Queen today.
i was thinking it would be someone related to Charles Edward, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha* (one of his kids or grandkids)
*because of he was Nazi.

 

[Zyobot]

Alternate names for internet and WWW

If for some reason the development of the Internet were to be delayed by about 15 years, the terminology we use to describe it would be different. I'm looking for equivalents to the following:

Internet
World Wide Web - I've come up with Worldnet
email - I've got e-mess
hot link/hyperlink - I thought jumpmark
web site
web page
download/upload
browser
search engine - spider?
mobile phone - pocket phone or pocket (I believe in Germany its 'handy')

any others?

Nice idea, though I'm afraid I can't help supply you with alternative terms at the moment. Alternatively, I wonder what'd happen if what we'd recognize as a modern internet and computers became commonplace a few decades earlier than IOTL? Maybe my '~2020 Technology By ~2000' proposal could feature that sort of thing, if the suggested post-1900 PoDs make that plausible anyway.

Also, 'Gustav Noske As A Nazi'.

 

[Kara0616]

If The Walt Disney Company decided to build a Disneyland in Canada where would be the best location to put it?

 

[RanulfC]

Alternate names for internet and WWW

If for some reason the development of the Internet were to be delayed by about 15 years, the terminology we use to describe it would be different.

Why the delay though? Really the 'internet' had it's origins in phone connections and networking that was put into place in the 60s. There were attempts to get analog and even mechancial 'computers' to talk to each other over distances in the late 50s.

I'm looking for equivalents to the following:
Internet

Internet was coined by the folks who put it together, DARPA from essentially "interconnected network" which was built on the already existing interconnected phone network. ARPAnet, (ARPA Network) was simply a way to automatically tie computers together over the existing network.
Connet (connected network)
Phonet (Phone Network)
Compnet/Commnet (Computer or Communications network)
Complink
Linknet (Linked Network)
Comp/Commlink

World Wide Web - I've come up with Worldnet

Note this also changes how the 'address' system works as there's a reason everything has "www" in the address
And the 'slang' for the Web has been "InterWeb" for decades

NAN: North American Network that expands into EarthNet
WorldCon (World Connection, wcs in address')
Earth Web (EWeb)
Global Connection System (GCS/gcs, could also be Global Computer System or Network)
Standard Computer Communications Protocol (SCCP/sccp or called "Skip")
Computer Interconnection System (CIS/cis)

email - I've got e-mess

This was pretty straight forward since you really ARE sending "electronic mail'
Electronic Communictions (e-com)
Electronic Post (e-post)
Electronic Message (EM or e-mess)
Computer instead of electronic so c-com/c-post/c-mess/c-mail
Network, System, could also replace electronic

hot link/hyperlink - I thought jumpmark

Outlink
Clicklink
Quicklink
Weblink
Netlink

web site
web page

Whatever replaces "web" would be applied here.
E-page/site
Net site/page
Av-page/site (Avatar site/page)
Alt-page/site (Alter-Ego)
E-page/site (Electronic page/site)

download/upload

Snag/Toss
Checkout/Pub (lish)
Down-Com/Up-Com (Communication)
Down/Up-Share

browser

Since this refers to your 'interface' with the web;
Cruiser
Surfer
Iface (Interface)
Crawler
SIP (System Interface Program/Protocol)
SAC (System Access Construct)
NIP (Network Interface Program/Protocol)

search engine - spider?

Seeker/Questor/Hunter
SAP (Search Algorithm Program)
PDF (Programed Data Finder)
Librarian
Net-guide

mobile phone - pocket phone or pocket (I believe in Germany its 'handy')

Obvious ST reference- "Communicator" or Comms
HandCom
Port (Portable Phone)
Cell-Com

any others?

Need a bit more background to figure what context's would change...

Randy

 

[Zyobot]

'Less US Intervention In Middle East'. Maybe this is a PoD that's more fit for 'Chat' even though American meddling in that region goes back to at least the days of President Eisenhower (and maybe even further back than that), but still.

 

[Grey Wolf]

say the UK was taken over by the Nazis during WW2 and they kept it to this day. if Edward VIII became King again (if the Nazis were able to get him before he left Portugal) who would be King/Queen today.
i was thinking it would be someone related to Charles Edward, Duke of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha* (one of his kids or grandkids)
*because of he was Nazi.

That is certainly what I did in a mostly-lost story I wrote in c2000, or even before. After Edward VIII dies, then the succession is really in the hands of the Nazis, maybe through a parliament that can enact whatever Act of Succession it wants. The Albany/Saxe-Coburg line is the way to go

 

[Grey Wolf]

If The Walt Disney Company decided to build a Disneyland in Canada where would be the best location to put it?

Toronto - seems to be more of a tourist magnet than Ottawa

 

[Kara0616]

Toronto

I don't know about that Toronto might be a little too close to Disney World.

 

[Zyobot]

‘George H.W. Bush Becomes GOP Nominee In 1980’.

 

[sampleswift]

'Zyuganov beats Yeltsin in 1996'... does Russian democracy still die (or perhaps even faster than OTL?)

 

[HamburgerTime]

Hey I'm looking for a story that I read maybe 4 to 6 years ago. It's set in (I think) an already established AU in the Second World War, and it's about the formation and training of a unit of Chinese soldiers under the British military in (I think) Egypt.
Anyone know of this story? I remember it being very interesting and I'd love to pick it up again.

Edit: Is this the wrong thread for this?

 

[Blacklister]

What if Portugal remained neutral in WWI? Would that have altered the destiny of Portuguese colonies?

 

[Tanner151]

If Göring died in 1941 or 1942 to either a drug overdose or car accident/plane accident, who would succeed him as leader of the Luftwaffe?

 

[McPherson]

If Göring died in 1941 or 1942 to either a drug overdose or car accident/plane accident, who would succeed him as leader of the Luftwaffe?

If Fatso had been shot for dereliction in 1942 (As he should have been. My opinion, YMMV.) this loser ( Hans Jeschonnek) would be next monkey in the barrel. If possible, that man was even more incompetent than "Meyer".

 

[Hammerbolt]

What if Portugal remained neutral in WWI? Would that have altered the destiny of Portuguese colonies?

An excelent question. A case can be made the british could have grabbed them, because they were hunting the german troops of the area all over southern Africa, including parts of the colonies. And it's not like it was the 1st time the british muscled Portugal out of parts of Africa...

 

[Tanner151]

If Fatso had been shot for dereliction in 1942 (As he should have been. My opinion, YMMV.) this loser ( Hans Jeschonnek) would be next monkey in the barrel. If possible, that man was even more incompetent than "Meyer".

I just learned of him last night while doing research. What about von Reims as the next leader of the Luftwaffe?

With Göring gone perhaps Galland, von Reims and Kesselring/or Milch can run the Luftwaffe as a triumvirate of sorts with von Reims as the Commander but the other two taking significant responsibilities.

They could cease the focus on bombers and the mess that was Luftwaffe training and doctrine. They’d refine it and focus on fighters to defend Germany, leading to a strong Luftwaffe during the latter half of the war than OTL.

 

[Hammerbolt]

They could cease the focus on bombers and the mess that was Luftwaffe training and doctrine. They’d refine it and focus on fighters to defend Germany, leading to a strong Luftwaffe during the latter half of the war than OTL.

Don't forget that you have to convince Hitler of this, first...

 

[McPherson]

I just learned of him last night while doing research. What about von Reims as the next leader of the Luftwaffe?

With Göring gone perhaps Galland, von Reims and Kesselring/or Milch can run the Luftwaffe as a triumvirate of sorts with von Reims as the Commander but the other two taking significant responsibilities.

They could cease the focus on bombers and the mess that was Luftwaffe training and doctrine. They’d refine it and focus on fighters to defend Germany, leading to a strong Luftwaffe during the latter half of the war than OTL.

With that fanatic and true national socialist (Greims)? See what happened to his command when it supported Army Group Center during Operation Citadel. 700 aircraft slaughtered to no purpose.

Galland was a self promoter who reminds me a lot of Fuchida. Not trustworthy to tell you the sky is blue.

Milch was more incompetent than Fatso and Jeschonnek.

Kesserlring would be "interesting".

 

[Tanner151]

With that fanatic and true national socialist (Greims)? See what happened to his command when it supported Army Group Center during Operation Citadel. 700 aircraft slaughtered to no purpose.

Galland was a self promoter who reminds me a lot of Fuchida. Not trustworthy to tell you the sky is blue.

Milch was more incompetent than Fatso and Jeschonnek.

Kesserlring would be "interesting".

Who are Alternate high-ranking Luftwaffe officers that could help correct/semi-refine Luftwaffe doctrine and aircraft production and training?

What are your thoughts on Kesselring?

 

[Tanner151]

Don't forget that you have to convince Hitler of this, first...

Very true. Would he double-down on bomber focus or could he be convinced to lessen bomber production by, say, 25% to increase fighter production to help with the Defence of the Reich.