Miscellaneous >1900 (Alternate) History Thread

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by RMcD94, Jul 9, 2019.

  1. Ogrebear Well-Known Member

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    Yeah but I’m sure the engineers could crack it- good Depression era work for the French workforce?
     
  2. McPherson McPherson; a guy who needs a shave.

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    Maybe, but by 1935, France is in political free-fall and it is hard to see the consensus forming. Besides, like de Gaulle, I don't believe in fortifications other than field expedients to get a dumb enemy to move into a prepared kill zone.
     
  3. roachbeef Well-Known Member

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    Was TNT prohibitively more expensive than Lyddite for the purposes of explosive filler in WW1 Royal Navy battleships? I've been told part of the reason the RN did not use them, unlike the Germans, was that it was difficult to get them to detonate reliably, but I'm wondering if cost played a factor.

    https://imgur.com/a/NT5XQ4B
     
  4. McPherson McPherson; a guy who needs a shave.

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    TNT requires a booster charge and a different fusing (clock gate type) regime. Lyddite will sometimes NOT go off on impact at the onset of massive deceleration.

    A bit of the central argument here.

     
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  5. Zyobot Well-Known Member

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    ‘Technocratic US’. And no, the fact that Silicon Valley has vast influence on contemporary American life and culture doesn’t quite count.

    Maybe the Technocracy movement gains way more steam in the midst of the Great Depression. But aside from making scientists, engineers and other technical professionals prominent members of the political class, I’m unsure how a government of that nature would function. Economically speaking, I’d guess that a form of “technocratic capitalism” would take hold of the country, rather than downright socialism.
     
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  6. RanulfC Well-Known Member

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    Get rid of Scott FAST and Technocracy 'might' have a chance to go somewhere... The other fact was that Technocracy never was able to articulate WHO would be "in charge" since it wasn't even clear how the organization itself was 'run' in a day-to-day basis. Next, get the "techs" of the day on-board early and keep them interested. There's a reason few actual engineers and scientist were at all interested in "Technocracy" since it in fact had little to do with science and technology. Worse it didn't even TRY to court those in power who were technically inclined like Patton, or Spatzz, etc.

    Lastly, jump on-board some of the more successful public programs during the Depression and keep the name and concept in play. This actually goes back to the first point in that had they had a clear progression from "where-we-are" to "where-we-want-to-be" and an ability to incrementally institute some of the changes they wanted instead of openly "hoping" the system would self destruct and somehow leave them in charge, (much like the Libertarian movment never had a 'plan' for acutally getting anywhere) they might have managed a wider and more supportive 'base' to work with.

    Fuhdamentally lacking all the above along with Scott activily sabatoging what they DID get accomplished meant Technocracy wasn't going anywhere...

    Randy
     
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  7. McPherson McPherson; a guy who needs a shave.

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    Thank Murphy for Scott.
     
  8. sampleswift Well-Known Member

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    Worse 2008 Recession that leads to another Great Depression and economic collapse across the world...
     
  9. roachbeef Well-Known Member

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    I've read this alternate history webnovel where these
    Francesco Caracciolo-class
    battleships make 30 knots when their historical max speed is 28 knots after being hit with two aerial torpedoes on the torpedo bulge from a squadron of 12
    Hawker Ospreys
    . Everybody is confused in the story itself, and I'm wondering if there is any historical precedent in which battleships go over the max speed in their specifications.
     
  10. McPherson McPherson; a guy who needs a shave.

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    Iowas. I would think the KGVs did, too.
     
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  11. Partisantheory Active Member

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    Ataturk Survives Until 1978
    When Marshall Never Arrives To Europe...
    When Johnny Shots The Dixie...
    Dritte Weltkrieg:Reich Falls
    2009:A Liberation Story on Middle Of Reich
    1985-99: Darkest Era For Turks

    these are my althistory scenarios in my mind.
     
  12. Gukpard hominem populist

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    What if King Farouk made the adoption of cats mandatory?