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Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by RMcD94, Jul 9, 2019.

  1. McPherson McPherson; a guy who needs a shave.

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    That is a good question. FDR's doctors told him that he was a dead man with only months to live. He would never live through a fourth term. He knew that fact going into 1944. He ran anyway. There was a 60-40 chance he would have died in 1943. It is my opinion that he knew he had to manage the war and he could not risk that task to a man like Dewey until he, FDR, knew that the war could not be screwed up by his successors.

    I think that is a case that can be argued.
     
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  2. interpoltomo please don't do coke in the bathroom

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    with the right pods in the 80s you could get this to be a thing by an atl 2030

    democrats 'triangulate' on social issues in 90s, drop gun control and slowly evolve into a big tent 'center-left*' party. you see working class whites, blacks, latins in the same party with the GOP ending up a yuppie liberal-nevertrumper-neocon fusion.

    with most 'red states, great lakes states, the SW solid dem you'd likely see mostly a dem lock on the white house. NY would probably be democratic due to upstate, urban minorities and remaining labor types. Wall street would be a GOP enclave in a dem state

    * Think some mix of old labor, euro/latin american christian dems, pre-clinton dems for the party. Mixed/status quo on various 'social' issues with ongoing nasty fights over abortion/lgbt within the party but due to similar trends as OTL+stronger dem dominance the anti position on both issues like gets fringe faster than otl
     
  3. Zyobot Well-Known Member

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    ...Alright, then. Provided that they form and have more or less the same general, pro-freedom-all-around platform that they mainly do IOTL, I wonder where the likes of the Libertarian Party might find itself ITTL 2030 or so.

    I would also guess that the GOP becomes more of a "business-conservative" political party as well--i.e. mainly supportive of capitalism, but also more friendly to gun-control legislation and the like?
     
  4. interpoltomo please don't do coke in the bathroom

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    Libertarians were 1970s so pre-POD.
     
  5. Zyobot Well-Known Member

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    Alright, that’s true. How they evolve post-PoD compared to OTL still remains a question, however.

    I’d like to think that their positions and platform wind up as more or less the same as IOTL. But maybe a few provisions might get amended here and there, depending on how politics goes.
     
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    What if Argentine invaded Falklands during WW2 ?
     
  7. McPherson McPherson; a guy who needs a shave.

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    You get something similar to a Madagascar expedition with the attendant debacles. One thing is for sure, it could get UGLY on South America itself. Brazilian, Argentinian, and Paraguayan politics is complicated. Look at the Uraguayan and Paraguayan Wars for more info. Don't forget Chile!
     
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  8. Zyobot Well-Known Member

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    'No WW2'.
     
  9. redjirachi Well-Known Member

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    I've been reading 1932: The Year of Hitler and FDR, and it's led me to wonder what might happen if some other Democrat gets the nomination, and if someone other than the Nazis rises to power. What if Thalmann becomes chancellor, for instance.
     
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  10. jack_donaghy_is_the_shado Senator-pre-elect from Iowa

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    I was just thinking of Goebel the other day. I'm not sure how Kentucky politics would be, but perhaps if he survives and does a good enough job he could a be a presidential contender.

    Also, what if Minnesota Governor John Johnson had not died so young? Nile Kinnock would also be interesting, after all, I do live in Iowa.
     
  11. Mordalfus Grea Well-Known Member

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    What if the restrictions placed on the navy for the construction of America's first Dreadnought were for a greater amount of tonnage and instead of the 16,000 long ton restriction of the OTL, the navy was given a more generous restriction of 24,000 long tons to make a pair of Battleship/Dreadnoughts.

    Basically this 'What if' is about how much better the South Carolina class Battleship could have been with a larger tonnage limit and what changes would come of that decision.
     
  12. Millsy Well-Known Member

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    Quick question - I often see comments that post should be in ASB - but where is the link to that forum ?

    I’m working on an ah set in alt world like ours but not ours so I don’t need to devise a plausible POD set in ww2 eta so should I post in >1900 forum or elsewhere?
     
  13. Zheng He Well-Known Member

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    Dumb question but it was 7 years ago now, when does it stop being current? If CalBear says it still falls into the current category that it does and that's fine but I am curious as to when something stops being current. I also realize it's not necessarily the a straight number as some topics given their controversial nature or the manner in which they stir people up should fall into this category for longer periods of time.
     
  14. McPherson McPherson; a guy who needs a shave.

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    Something like an Iron Duke but with TSE engines and 30.5cm/L45 bore diameter main battery and US 12.7cm/L50 secondaries. Super-firing with 5 MA gunhouses instead of 4 and improved cruising range. Thicker main belt and a MUCH better torpedo defense.
     
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  15. McPherson McPherson; a guy who needs a shave.

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    Your point of departure date defines the forum date you should select. For Teddy Roosevelt to screw up and set off a premature WWI I needed to go before 1900 even though he screws up after 1900 since the PoD actually starts in the Spanish American War.

    For Alien Space Bats... go to the forum on the title page marked "Alien Space Bats and Other Magic".
     
  16. StevenIronside Well-Known Member

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    Wondering how and when a western canada could separate from eastern canada. And would this be a viable nation?
     
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    What if Syrian troops never left Lebanon in 2005 ?
     
  18. Mordalfus Grea Well-Known Member

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    What if the Xinhai Revolution failed and China did not destabilize in the following years, how different would Asia be with China still ruled by the Qing Dynasty?
     
  19. Zyobot Well-Known Member

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    ‘No 2008 Financial Crisis’.
     
  20. redjirachi Well-Known Member

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    You can't throw a rock in the interwar period without hitting an interesting alternate history scenario