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1898?

Navally it's going to go down to how the Spanish cruisers perform vis a vis the Japanese ones, but the Japanese are coming off the Sino Japanese War with both reinforcements and salvage

The Germans might be more inclined to push their luck if it is Japan rather than the USA

Or you might see Japan act decisively so that the Germans don't even get into the play at Manila

Will the Spanish send the Pelayo?
I'd think that, assuming Japanese victories at the start, that Germany might intervene on Spain's side if it can. Germany has already intervened via the Triple Alliance in 1895, I wouldn't put it past Wilhelm to try and have a go at a second intervention with the aim of siphoning off Taiwan from Japan or something. Exactly how the other great powers might react to this I don't know, too many variables over who might want what and how each reacts to any actions the others take.

I think Spain would send the Pelayo in this instance, Japan wouldn't/doesn't have the power projection to launch a fleet to Spain's atlantic coast in Spain's eyes, so they'd be more confident about forming a taskforce with which to reverse any losses/shore up their position in the pacific.
 
for a reason or another the arabs never revolted during ww1, how would this impact the war overall and it's impact on the aftermath of ottoman empire in general ?
 
Here's one that would hopefully be more plausible than an Allied Japan.

WI: Imperial Japan Is Neutral

Simply put, the idea is to placate Japan after WWI to the point that it stays neutral instead of joining the Axis. Bonus points if you can include Japan playing both sides in the conflict.
 
Here's one that would hopefully be more plausible than an Allied Japan.

WI: Imperial Japan Is Neutral

Simply put, the idea is to placate Japan after WWI to the point that it stays neutral instead of joining the Axis. Bonus points if you can include Japan playing both sides in the conflict.
Well you have 20 years of alternate history here, if you assume the Western Allies want to placate Japan. If they start doing that in 1918 then Japan will never bother to evacuate its Chinese holdings that it did do. They would also get a higher ration at the Washington Treaty, meaning they may well complete the Kaga and Akagi as battleships not aircraft carriers, which could have a strange knock-on (or not, they might simply try to build some big ones from bottom up as an experiment)

But the 1920s are not as much a problem OTL as the 1930s. However, your actions may have prevented the rise of the militarists, which would suit your goals. Without them, it's highly unlikely Japan embarks on an attempt to conquer China. But it will still be doing SOMETHING.
 
for a reason or another the arabs never revolted during ww1, how would this impact the war overall and it's impact on the aftermath of ottoman empire in general ?
Absent Lawrence and British intelligence operations, then the Sherif and his family would see no point in revolting. If they are not going to get any support, then they are far better off waiting it out, or playing to get some concessions from the Ottomans for their support.

This means that there is no soft underbelly to the Ottoman Empire - the British can either try an invasion through the Sinai, or throw all their efforts into Mesopotamia. Of course, it also means that the Ottomans, and their German support units could throw all their weight into defending against a renewed British offensive in the latter.

Jerusalem won't fall, and even if the British do manage to throw enough forces into Mesopotamia to overcome increased Ottoman-German resistance it's one hell of a slog from that direction and involves desserts and mountains. It would be the equivalent to the Italian front in WW2 - the defenders may be slowly losing, but the attackers won't be able to break through, and instead have to slog their way onwards.

If we assume the war ends with a result similar to OTL, then there are no Arabs of the Hashemite persuasion pushing for kingdoms. Thus, there will be no Kingdom of the Hejaz, no Kingdom of Transjordan and no abortive Kingdom of Syria. A Hashemite is highly unlikely to end up on the throne in Iraq, though who would is a curious question!
 
But the 1920s are not as much a problem OTL as the 1930s. However, your actions may have prevented the rise of the militarists, which would suit your goals. Without them, it's highly unlikely Japan embarks on an attempt to conquer China. But it will still be doing SOMETHING.
Hence why I had the idea that they'd play both sides at first. Namely building it's own economy by supplying the UK with extra material and goods, but at the same time maintaining relations with Germany and Italy and Hungary
 
@Grey Wolf going off your idea for how to make Japan neutral in WW2.

My idea was that maybe after the German-Soviet non-agression Pact is signed, Japan at first seriously considers joining the Allies outright. Only to change their mind whenever Operation Barbarossa (or whatever counterpart it gets) takes place. Whereas even during the war, Mitsubishi aircraft are builr under liscene for both France and Hungary and other combatant nations.
 
Inspired by the first two phases of both communitarian and regional parliaments in Belgium, what if the proposed assemblies in most of English regions were composed of sitting Members of Parliament?
 
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On the topic of Belgium, could the country have unraveled or collapsed in a timeline with no World War II
World War One actually lead to increased nationalism from the Flemish due to the German government thinking of them as an oppressed people and so they were given a current level of autonomy which long term worsened the divide between the two. In a situation where World War One didn’t happen however economic disparity and language differences would still increase nationalism on both sides although this would be a slower process. Also Flemish nationalism would be more acceptable if it didn’t have the legasy of aligning with the Germans in WW2 and many Flemish nationalist leaders wouldn’t be arrested after WW2. So I thing they would stay together however particularly the Flemish would push for more autonomy over time as the wallons would be content in their wealthy and powerful position.
 
What's the maximum population that the territory of OTL Greece could support?
Since the maximum population of Earth is probably around a trillion people (due to the need to mitigate waste heat), plugging in the numbers gives around 500 million-1 billion people in the territory of modern Greece. Other than futuristic scenarios like that, asking the "maximum" population any given territory can support IMO doesn't make much sense outside of a premodern context (where the limit is local agriculture and societies) since technology and food imports can make that number as high as you feel like.
 
Since the maximum population of Earth is probably around a trillion people (due to the need to mitigate waste heat), plugging in the numbers gives around 500 million-1 billion people in the territory of modern Greece. Other than futuristic scenarios like that, asking the "maximum" population any given territory can support IMO doesn't make much sense outside of a premodern context (where the limit is local agriculture and societies) since technology and food imports can make that number as high as you feel like.
Greece doesn't have to be proportionally populated to the rest of the world, does it? Put a trillion domiciles there and all out-of-the-house activity on other parts of the globe!
 
If Agnew became President following Nixon’s assassination at the hands of Arthur Bremer, would he still have been prosecuted for bribery?
 
If Greece hadn't launched the Greco-Turkish War after WWI, could it have got more territory in the final Allied peace with Turkey, at least in Eastern Thrace?
 
HOW would
Greece doesn't have to be proportionally populated to the rest of the world, does it? Put a trillion domiciles there and all out-of-the-house activity on other parts of the globe!
How would you put a million million people in the territory of Greece? Cover every square inch and elevate to a necessary degree? Shades of Wingrove

I can't even begin to imagine what the out of house support for a trillion people is! Unless it is a world with replicators or something where you can simply change atoms to food
 
How would you put a million million people in the territory of Greece? Cover every square inch and elevate to a necessary degree?
Yeah, I guess that's how you'd have to do it. A hundred stories covering the entire country gives you enough space for a decent-sized bedroom for everyone, but that's not accounting for the tremendous transport, plumbing, climate control systems needed.
Shades of Wingrove
In Newcastle? I don't understand the reference.
 
Yeah, I guess that's how you'd have to do it. A hundred stories covering the entire country gives you enough space for a decent-sized bedroom for everyone, but that's not accounting for the tremendous transport, plumbing, climate control systems needed.

In Newcastle? I don't understand the reference.
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and his Chung Kuo novels
 
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