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England/Britain becoming a republic permanently from the mid-17th century could potentially significantly delay if not butterfly away the concept of Constitutional Monarchy.
 
Riksdagian Sweden
The first Age of Liberty was only brought about by Charles XII's death and could not last - it ended with the King's coup. In addition, the Age of Liberty coincided with the beginning of Sweden's exit from its Great Power status.

Meanwhile, in England IOTL, parliamentary form of governance under the monarchy eventually lasted and became stable, and at the same time the country thrived as a leading Great Power.
Polish Sejm
I am aware of this - in fact it actually became a true constitutional monarchy just before its demise - but given what happened to PLC IOTL, Poland being the posterboy of constitutional monarchy would really help to discredit the idea rather than promoting it. And changing "Kingdom of England" into "Commonwealth of England" or "English Republic" would not prevent the PLC's demise.
 
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The first Age of Liberty was only brought about by Charles XII's death and could not last - it ended with the King's coup. In addition, the Age of Liberty coincided with the beginning of Sweden's exit from its Great Power status.

Meanwhile, in England IOTL, parliamentary form of governance under the monarchy eventually lasted and became stable, and at the same time the country thrived as a leading Great Power.
The Age of Liberty has nothing to do with Riksdagian Sweden. Charles XI, Christina, Charles X etc all had their powers limited (to some extent) by the Riksdag and the Great Ministries of Sweden, because the Swedes wanted nothing like Christian II to return. Admittedly the limits put on their powers were small, but that was because the Riksdag voluntarily kept small restrictions on their monarch's powers. There is a reason why Ulrika Eleonora was unable to bring back the absolutism even with the backing of the entire Swedish Army in the face of the Riksdag and required a 5 year long meticulously planned, bribed and funded coup supported by the military and estates to bring down the authority of the Riksdag.
 
AHC: wank the Niger Congo Peoples

With an early PoD between 9000 and 4000 BC, wank the Niger Congo people in terms of population and tech level as much as possible

Inspired by this movie
 
WI: Philip and Joanna of Castile's genders are flipped, so we get Juan of Castile and Aragon and Philippa of Burgundy
They would NOT marry. “Philippa“ would most likely marry either of the sons of Edward IV of England or at the worst Charles VIII of France (if Louis can secure that match for his heir)
 
Why wouldn't they marry...? The alliance of Habsburg-Trastamara would still be needed...
First that match is years AFTER the POD (and after both Philip and Margaret had other matches), second Maximilian will need desperately the English alliance if he has only two daughters by Mary for preventing France to take control of Burgundy (so the young Duchess will marry a son of Edward IV and Maximilian will marry to Elizabeth of York).
Third the OTL match was a double match with Philip and Joanna on one side and her brother Juan and his sister Margaret on the other. If Margaret still do not become Queen Consort of France in this scenario, then the double match will be between Margaret and Juan on one side and Maximilian and Elizabeth's son to either Maria or Catherine. If Margaret married in France, then Juan (or male Joanna, if Juan still die as OTL) will marry a daughter of Maximilian and Elizabeth. Male Joanna will most likely marry his cousin Joanna of Naples as soon she is widowed by her half-nephew OR his brother's fiancèe
 
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First that match is years AFTER the POD (and after both Philip and Margaret had other matches), second Maximilian will need desperately the English alliance if he has only two daughters by Mary for preventing France to take control of Burgundy (so the young Duchess will marry a son of Edward IV and Maximilian will marry to Elizabeth of York).
Third the OTL match was a double match with Philip and Joanna on one side and her brother Juan and his sister Margaret on the other. If Margaret still do not become Queen Consort of France in this scenario, then the double match will be between Margaret and Juan on one side and Maximilian and Elizabeth's son to either Maria or Catherine. If Margaret married in France, then Juan (or male Joanna, if Juan still die as OTL) will marry a daughter of Maximilian and Elizabeth. Male Joanna will most likely marry his cousin Joanna of Naples as soon she is widowed by her half-nephew OR his brother's fiancèe
Why exactly will Maximilian wed Elizabeth of York and why would Margaret of Austria ITTL be queen of France of all places? That defeats the purpose of stopping French control of Burgundy?
 
*cough* Riksdagian Sweden, Polish Sejm, Viziership Ottoman Empire, Bharadari Sabha Nepal, Grand Council Era of Qing China, Wazir Era of Persia etc *cough*
Anyway, what I mean is that depending on Republican England's success, and with the failed state that is Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth becoming the posterboy of Constitutional Monarchy in Europe, many more countries would follow and imitate England's republican form of government, especially if England still becomes the No.1 Great Power.
 
Why exactly will Maximilian wed Elizabeth of York and why would Margaret of Austria ITTL be queen of France of all places? That defeats the purpose of stopping French control of Burgundy?
Because he need a wife able to give him a male heir for Austria soon, and need the support of her father and aunt for keeping control of Burgundy and either Louis XI had already broken the engagement between Elizabeth and the Dauphin or will break it as soon Edward allied himself with Maximilian. And taking away all this in OTL negotiations for a match between Maximilian and Elizabeth had started at the time of Edward IV’s death.
And Margaret will likely end as future Queen of France as here Maximilian is in a worse situation than his OTL one and as there he was forced to accept a match between his daughter, who would bring some lands as dowry, and the Dauphin, I can not see things going too differently and giving to the Dauphin the younger daughter with some lands is surely better than giving him the eldest with the whole Burgundian inheritance
 
Anyway, what I mean is that depending on Republican England's success, and with the failed state that is Poland-Lithuania Commonwealth becoming the posterboy of Constitutional Monarchy in Europe, many more countries would follow and imitate England's republican form of government, especially if England still becomes the No.1 Great Power.
Unlikely. England became Republican in 1650 and the Polish decline started in 1704. The sheer butterfly massacre is going to be brutal if the same things happen. Furthermore, the Riksdagian model & the Ottoman Council of Viziers Model had a more direct, historians would argue, larger impact on the development of the constitutional monarchy than Britain, considering Britain's own model was borrowed from the two
 
Because he need a wife able to give him a male heir for Austria soon, and need the support of her father and aunt for keeping control of Burgundy and either Louis XI had already broken the engagement between Elizabeth and the Dauphin or will break it as soon Edward allied himself with Maximilian. And taking away all this in OTL negotiations for a match between Maximilian and Elizabeth had started at the time of Edward IV’s death.
And Margaret will likely end as future Queen of France as here Maximilian is in a worse situation than his OTL one and as there he was forced to accept a match between his daughter, who would bring some lands as dowry, and the Dauphin, I can not see things going too differently and giving to the Dauphin the younger daughter with some lands is surely better than giving him the eldest with the whole Burgundian inheritance
Ah I see, but perhaps the dauphin dies earlier ITTL...that'll start a whole lot of drama...
 
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