Miscellaneous <1900 (Alternate) History Thread

[sampleswift]

The validity of Philip V's renunciation is disputed since even before he signed it.
Anyway, Louis XV being female is a POD that comes before the Treaty of Utrecht. It is likely that, after the death of his older brother and nephews, Philip V would abdicate the throne of Spain in favor of his younger brother the duke of Berry (as Carlos II's will provided it) and come back to France.
Philip becomes king of France as Philippe VII of France.
His brother becomes king of Spain as Carlos III of Spain.

How would this affect France and Spain? Does the French Revolution still happen (on schedule)? It's likely that the problems with the estates aren't resolved (in time)? How does this change the French Revolution?
What of Spain? How would Carlos III operate for Spain? (Or would he just be incompetent?)

 

[August II Mocny]

WI: Peter the Great dies during regency.
@alexmilman @pjm

 

[August II Mocny]

AHC: Anabaptist America

 

[TickTock The Witch's Dead]

WI: The Portuguese discover the Americas in 1392 and colonize all of it, unite Spain, and create the largest empire in the world spanning all of the Americas, parts of Asia, much of coastal Africa, and Oceania as well as, Albanian Italy and Ireland, and establish a long-lasting Spanish hegemony?

 

[August II Mocny]

What are the most important elections on US history which could change the country? Teddy Roosvelt vs Woodrow Wilson but it's post 1900

 

[TheRockofChickamauga]

What are the most important elections on US history which could change the country? Teddy Roosvelt vs Woodrow Wilson but it's post 1900

Some of the leading contenders, IMO:
1800: The Jeffersonian Revolution, Death Knell of Federalist Party, First Sparks of American Populism
1860: First Republican President, American Civil War, Set Slavery on the path to abolition
1896: Ensured that Business would have a say in American politics, allowed imperialism to go forward, took the first steps of the Democrats being the liberal party
1932: FDR and the New Deal, solidified the Democrats as liberal party, and sent the Republicans down the first steps to conservatism.

 

[sampleswift]

Some of the leading contenders, IMO:
1800: The Jeffersonian Revolution, Death Knell of Federalist Party, First Sparks of American Populism
1860: First Republican President, American Civil War, Set Slavery on the path to abolition
1896: Ensured that Business would have a say in American politics, allowed imperialism to go forward, took the first steps of the Democrats being the liberal party
1932: FDR and the New Deal, solidified the Democrats as liberal party, and sent the Republicans down the first steps to conservatism.

The Jackson elections?
1876: Tilden vs. Hayes?
Wait... if 1896 had gone the other way, that could have prevented business from having a say in American politics?!

 

[TheRockofChickamauga]

The Jackson elections?

1828 would be in the second-tier, again IMO. It certainly marked a rise of populism and the common man as a force in American politics, but 1800 originated that movement. Jacksonianism itself, while a potent force for another 30 years, would be quashed with the Copperheads in the 1860s and supplanted by Bourbonism within the Democratic Party in the 1870s.

1876: Tilden vs. Hayes?

Whoever won Reconstruction was going to end. Tariffs are lowered slightly instead of maintained at their current rate. That, and possibly minor civil service reform, aside with several other minor differences, would be the extent of the differences of a Tilden presidency in comparison with Hayes. Certainly an interesting election, but not a history-shaking one.

Wait... if 1896 had gone the other way, that could have prevented business from having a say in American politics?!

I wouldn't go so far as to see they would have no role, but I tend to think Bryan would take some measures to limit their influence to secure his ideals of populism in power. Certainly he would have brought an earlier end to the trusts.

 

[LordVorKon]

What are the most important elections on US history which could change the country? Teddy Roosvelt vs Woodrow Wilson but it's post 1900

1824
1840 (No Tyler means a different precedent could have been set for Presidential succession. Not a guarantee, of course.)
1844 (Clay probably wouldn't annex Texas)

 

[sampleswift]

1828 would be in the second-tier, again IMO. It certainly marked a rise of populism and the common man as a force in American politics, but 1800 originated that movement. Jacksonianism itself, while a potent force for another 30 years, would be quashed with the Copperheads in the 1860s and supplanted by Bourbonism within the Democratic Party in the 1870s.

Whoever won Reconstruction was going to end. Tariffs are lowered slightly instead of maintained at their current rate. That, and possibly minor civil service reform, aside with several other minor differences, would be the extent of the differences of a Tilden presidency in comparison with Hayes. Certainly an interesting election, but not a history-shaking one.

I wouldn't go so far as to see they would have no role, but I tend to think Bryan would take some measures to limit their influence to secure his ideals of populism in power. Certainly he would have brought an earlier end to the trusts.

Thanks. Could 1856 if Fremont won have been a history-shaker? It may have gotten the American Civil War earlier...

 

[August II Mocny]

What if Russia choose the standard 1435 mm rail gauge over it's own 1520 mm on? How would it impact ww1 and ww2?

 

[ordinarylittleme]

WI: Isabella of Valois survives childbirth?

 

[CaptainShadow]

WI: George of York, Duke of Bedford, the son of Edward IV and Elizabeth Woodville, survives

Dies in the tower, may get pretenders later on.

Richard II and Isabella of Valois have children together

Plz no

 

[ordinarylittleme]

Dies in the tower, may get pretenders later on.

Plz no

A third prince of the tower? Even IOTL rumors said they escaped...

 

[sampleswift]

Least defensible capital in the world?
(A counter to the "most defensible capital in the world" question.)

 

[August II Mocny]

Least defensible capital in the world?
(A counter to the "most defensible capital in the world" question.)

Paris is quite bad, so is Warsaw.

 

[Count of Crisco]

Paris is quite bad, so is Warsaw.

Putting Moscow in the running. Though it's depth within Russia does give it some defense in depth.

 

[August II Mocny]

Putting Moscow in the running. Though it's depth within Russia does give it some defense in depth.

Beijing used to be even worse

 

[Arkenfolm]

Paris is quite bad, so is Warsaw.

Paris is decent since it's in the middle of France which as WWI proved has nice natural borders between the ocean, Alps, Pyrenees, and Vosges/Rhine. It does leave Flanders and the Low Countries as a route though.

Poland just has bad borders it practically needs borders like the early 17th century PLC to have a good shot at protecting Warsaw which at the least is in the middle of the country. At the very least Warsaw is behind a few rivers in the west and the Pripet Marshes in the east.

 

[ordinarylittleme]

WI: Catherine of Valois had a daughter instead of a son with Henry IV