To an extent, Portugal's current political system is still very close to this. It's a Semi presidential Republic where the President has considerable power and can dissolve the Parliament even with an Absolute Majority as he is threatening to do, he is not just a ceremonial President and this tradition comes from the Monarchy because the First Republic which was a Parliamentary one where the President was a ceremonial role was too unstable to work in roughly two decades there were as many Governments as in the Constitutional Monarchy because there was no mediator as the King had been. Nowadays, people do choose who leads the Government though.
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WI, Charles the bold and Margaret of York had a daughter? @isabella @Kellan Sullivan
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Question, what if Joao Carlos son of Pedro IV and I of Portugal and Brazil survived? Would Pedro abdicate Portugal in his sons favour? And if so would Joao be able to take the throne without a war or would his uncle still try and usurp the throne?
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Probably not.
The siege of La Rochelle was not going well for royal forces.
If Henri d'Anjou stays in France, the Malcontents Plot as we know it may be avoided. However, the Malcontents would still be there and would rebel sooner or later as in OTL.
The main difference for France is that Henri d'Anjou probably never meets Louise de Lorraine-Vaudémont (he met her during his travel to Poland in OTL). As a result, Henri III marries someone else, probably Elisabet Vasa as Catherine de Medici wanted. That may give him a surviving son, avoiding the succession crisis and the Bourbon's rise to power.
What about Poland-Lithuania ? Who would be elected and what would be the consequences ?
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I thought the plot failed anyway? Sorry, all of my French history knowledge comes from Wikipedia.
Daughter of Gustav I?
Oh. It's part of a TL I'm making where free elections are never a thing in Poland-Lithuania, because Albert, younger brother of Sigismund II Augustus is born normally rather than because of the bear hunt accident. The discussion thread for it is floating here somewhere.
Was there ever a chance to have either China, Japan, or Korea embrace one of the Abrahamic faiths? Even if in a syncretic fashion?
So aside from potentially Henry III having a Catholic heir nothing much changes?
But what about Henry of Guise? Henry III was really unpopular, so even with a son could H. of G. still try for the throne?
That's an interesting question...I imagine that Peter IV would push for OTL Peter II of Brazil to be the Portuguese Monarch instead. Brazil was seen as having better perspectives than Portugal and was an Empire so I think João Carlos being the eldest would be the heir to Brazil. OTL Peter II being pretty much a newborn could be educated as a Portuguese. I think Miguel would be an indirect problem when compared to Carlota Joaquina who is the power behind the throne to Miguel. They could oppose and cause a civil war, they could accept the Regency and manipulate the kid in their favor, it's anybody's guess.
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Hmm that’s very true. I guess given Pedro being a baby Carlotta and Miguel would try and shape him to their own devices. Carlotta esoecially I imagine
Probably marries either Charles VIII or becomes the bride of Edward V.
To be honest, hard to say. There's a lot of things that went wrong that led to the collapse of the First Empire, from dealing with anti-monarchists to financial issues to Fernando VII outright refusing to accept anything less than the restoration of his colonies wholesale and diplomatic pressure to prevent recognition of Mexico's independence (which contributed to financial issues). Personally, my best bet would've been for Fernando VII to kick the bucket in some capacity and allow a Spanish monarch to be more willing to compromise. But I'm sure there are some who might have a better idea here.
Henri III's unpopularity increased with the events due to the crisis that began precisely because of the succession issue.
If there was a Catholic dauphin, nobody would have considered to change the succession order. Sure, Henri III would've still been rather unpopular but nothing that deserves a civil war.
As for Henri de Guise, even in OTL, I am not sure he wanted to go as far as taking the throne himself. More details here:
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-henri-de-guise-survives.506107/
Thank you. Very informative.
Is this thread also a plausible scenario?
What if Henry III of France had a legitimate son before his assination?
POD: Henry III and Louise de Lorraine have a wedding night baby. In 1589 their son is 14 years old. What happens when Henry III is assassinated? Who would support Henry III's heir? Would there be a regency council? Would Henry of Navarre seize the throne? If so, what would he do with...
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