Miscellaneous <1900 (Alternate) History Thread
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If Mary Tudor succeeds unwed, there might be an interest in marrying her to Richard de la Pole, just to tie up any "loose ends", the English Rose marrying the White Rose of York is kinda poetic
Likely the House of Howard no? Given Thomas Howard Junior is now the senior heir of Edward IV
Thomas Howard would become Thomas I. If Margaret were to die in childbirth before having James V and if Henry were to die before having an heir, then Mary Tudor could marry Thomas Howard
Agreed, so, perhaps a pod in 1506 then, with Margaret dying giving birth to a stillborn kid perhaps? Henry then dying from something in 1509?
Also, how appealing would an English War of succession be in the late 1490s/early 1500s from a narrative stand point?
That would work for me
For me very little. Anotherround of civil wars is the last thing who England need so I would like a more pacific scenario
Alright quality, would it be Thomas ruling as Thomas I, or would he and Mary be co monarchs?
Elizabeth of York wasn't co-monarch. I think it'd be Thomas I (well unless he predeceases her)
Both can work. Thomas would still be King as Thomas I and the one to actually rule in all scenarios (as King alone or co-monarch would rule in his own right but things would NOT change much with him as Mary’s King Consort, if that would be necessary)
Alright quality, and given that Henry took the throne through conquest rather than in right of his wife, I suppose the Howard’s could argue the same here?
Mary Tudor look to you to be the kind of woman interested to fight her husband for ruling?
Not really as the Howard would NOT take the Crown after a war, but from an hereditary claim… likely Thomas and Mary would be co-monarchs
She never had chance to do so IOTL but she was determined to exert her status as royal princess with autonomy (as shown by her wedding to Charles Brandon)
Question, what changes if both Arthur and Catherine die of the sweating sickness in 1502?
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Interesting, so the wait for her to come of age won’t be too pressing for the tudors? I suppose given she’d come of age in 1510 a year after Henry ascends the throne they could start pretty quickly if Henry were so inclined
The dowry is probably just kept as it is (half-half) while Henry and Elizabeth try for another child, maybe this time due to butterflies it's a second surviving son