I wonder if Brazil will become more involved with Europe so it can getit's revenge.
And about Paraguay, will they unite with Uruguay to be one country?
And about Paraguay, will they unite with Uruguay to be one country?
Guayguay!I wonder if Brazil will become more involved with Europe so it can getit's revenge.
And about Paraguay, will they unite with Uruguay to be one country?
That would be a Megaguay....I wonder if Brazil will become more involved with Europe so it can getit's revenge.
And about Paraguay, will they unite with Uruguay to be one country?
Welcome back, Red_Galiray. Good updates...
Unrelated to Guayception.
The Caracas Earthquake that so harmed the early OTL revolutionaries was averted here, but the tectonic plates are still pushing. Caracas could be leveled at any moment ITTL.
Impossible.This TL is low-key a Paraguay wank.
Would it be interesting if she become the Switzerland of South America?
This TL is low-key a Paraguay wank.
Would it be interesting if she become the Switzerland of South America?
Paraguay is The Little Engine That Couldn't.Impossible.
Let aside the obvious and foreseeable ('guay' stuff) chain jokes/ending words' games some posts up...
About this TL 'future', at least in 'La Plata' region I think that would be the union and integration from all former Virreinato territories (include Paraguay); with/thanks to the Bolivar's influence and to oppose the will of the deceased paraguayan tyrant and likely to the isolating, continuism faction.
This future 'Platense' state,probably will had the goal of recover all their historical/colonial limits and will be self organized in a some kind of, strong, confederation how a previous step to a full federation, but with their capital city out of Bs.As. but near or on of the river Uruguay and near of the estuary of the 'Río de la Plata'. But while the former it's feasible I don't think that all the Alto Perú/Charcas will be probably to integrate/continued part of the future federation, at least to short/middle term aside that they are more nearly (culturally/politically) to the Perú.
La Plata's ambition, or rather "Manifest destiny" is the integration or conquest of all the former territories of the Viceroyalty of Rio de La Plata. Paraguay only wants to be left alone for the time being. This Platinean manifest destiny will actually play a role in the next update.
About the first updates two things/observations :
While I guess that you had would use it as a 'narrative resource'( to describe the image of the situation of both belligerents and that of the Platenses, in specific)... I don't want to break the '4th wall' ..
But how you had asked for more comment/critics...
First not seems logic that the supply for the 'Plata' must be received through those place that it's the most far (geographical and nulle roads infrastructure) because, by the way, the throughput logistical would be unbelievable hardest and aside of course from would be a logistical nightmare that hasn't had really sense nor be practical.
for those things that must be sent and received from .almost the farthest point south to which you can go and then make the same road over land to came it where the supplies for the war effort are necessary.
The naval combat zone with the virtual stalemate (at least how were described) and in consecuence it possible extrapolate that the naval blockade/interdiction zone that its being afected its ' only' the River of the Plata's mouth and the Atlantic ocean at long of the Oriental and south- Brazilians coasts.
Because the opposite would have given to either of them,a clear strategic advantage.
Therefore the neutral shipping through the middle / east Atlantic must be safe; I think that until their arrival at their destination ports just like for Brazil the 'Salvador' (of Bahía) port or if so required by the narrative, I will suggest Belém or Recife ports.
For the 'Platenses' the natural choice must been the fort/port, of the then, litle town: Carmen de Patagones (937 km southwest from Bs. As.).
You're completly right. I will make the neccesary modifications in the updates, so that Brazil will buy supplies from the US but won't be able to use them since they arrive so far from the battlefield and due to the poor infrastructure, with Colombia using safe routes in the Atlantic to supply both once the situation stabilizes.
Second:
Although it is 'ok', your short definition/examples, for narrative purposes and it's more a nuances thing... but I think that could be important give/share a more deeper info. about on the definition of "Gaucho"...
But, in my opinion for to understand best the history of the Region, it is necessary to know that the similarity of gauchos with the cowboys beyond that superficial owes to their type and their way of life that were dependent from 'wild' or unmarked cattle.
They were not part of the colonial / national formal societies of the Region, because of their ethnic and social origin, they were socially outcast and politically, unruly border mens.
Being a gaucho was a way of life... similar to the Indian lifestyle but characterized for being rugged individualists and fiercely independent skilled riders.
The main difference with the Llaneros was that because they were from a tropical plain and must be skilled swimmer and boatmen also pedestrians.
While they usually applied their skill in temporary/seasonal works for the landowners in a time where the lands, field enclosure was something (the fact and the idea) belonging to the future there wasn't contradiction to them to take at work here or beyond and go out and come back freely, but their respect were only for those within them and/or landowner that share their way of life and of course get (or that was admired) their bravery and skills in superlative grade.
Also, they were part of a 'horse culture' similar to those in the old world, but with the difference that their way of life was a life choice for freedom from the social rules or laws and of course generally great numbers were outlaws (or forced to become in) that lived and liked to live on horseback in the wilderness.,
The above factors/qualities make them excellent pathfinders and also that were used how shock troops (Gaucho cavalry), that was feared for their combat skills.
But with the passage of the time and with a more strong State and the social evolution with the economical changes only each time less groups of gauchos scattered were able to continue in their traditional lifestyle.
Again, you're right. I will edit next chapter to explain better the Gauchos and their motives. Right now they support the rebellion because the Brazilian Empire tried to put them down, but I'll delve deeper into the situation come next chapter.
So the whole war was a mess...and seems the Gauchos become the latin america cossacks..nice.
An Empire without the Emperor...what folly indeed...
Still, there are alternatives. Perhaps Isabel?
The darkness...
The decades of darkness are upon us all... América is falling down the pit. Argentina broken, Brazil falling apart, Bolivia and Peru humilliated, and Chile and Colombia stumbling... And soon Mexico and the United States will come to blows...
I love it!
Interesting update..seems that OTL or TTL the Río de la Plata's peoples fate it's unable to avoid the bloody factions wars... anyway some nuance...the Liberalism ticketed to the federalist faction lead or synonyms for the 'Orientales'...only must be means in the more broad sense because their ideology were rooted in the Artiguism* that can be characterized how political federalist but at self time them were social/economics reformers (or revolutionaries). The above more than the political one were theirs main difference and the answering of the ferocious fight and main source to the opposition to their existence and fears to their ideological 'libertarian/integrationist'** spread/'preach' within and through the colonial (and postcolonial) society racial and class barriers.
Therefore we must expect in the territories, that were ruled or under their military occupation under some time... more deepest social and economics changes than in the rest of the United Provinces ('Platenses')... and of course more loyalty to the 'federalist' would come from (mainly but not at all, remember Rosas and Urquiza) from the social groups that belonged to the social bases from the loosely stratified post colonial society and the probably repression against the enemy from both factions.
Unfortunately, even the changes I made to the Independence Wars weren't enough to prevent these kinds of division. In future updates we'll see the problems it's caused to Colombia and Mexico. Thanks for the information about the Orientals/Federalists. Indeed, I've been using the terms interchangabilly, but I will deelve deeper into their ideology and positions in the next update about La Plata.
* Artigas has two main ideological influences: the works of American authors such as Thomas Paine and the French authors of the Enlightenment as Jean-Jacques Rousseau. Artigas read/posses books as "Common Sense" of T. Paine and "The social contract" of Rousseau.
Also Artigas written ideological documents are partially taken from the U.S. constitutional texts (and federalist apologias).
However many Ibero American independence leaders were more influenced by the French Revolution and the authors of France than the US. ones, Artigas had both ideological influence beside the political liberalism exerted a strong influence on Artigas' thoughts because his personal character and had lived in his formative years in the deep country within the natives and the 'criollos' that were the denomyn from those from hispanics ascendancy born in America or from mixed ascendancy (mostly:Natives/Indians assimilated from the reductions, Africans freed) and
of course Gauchos.
This is very useful information! Thank you very much!
** Clarification : Given the fact that even today the federalism and unitarism and of course the Artigas leadership and ideology it very disputed and still 'today' causes divisions and political tensions not only in the 'Academy' but also among the different ideological currents that selves identify, appropriate, reinterpret or reject its legacy. With both ends to the creation of the black legend or the 'pink'(romantic, nationalist) one of their actions, achievements or ideology...
I must clarify that everything expressed before and above, although based on my studies and historical readings... It's only my personal / ideological interpretation of that formative period of the history of the Río de la Plata.
I'll include that in the future updates. Thank you!